DISSENTING REPORT BY THE AUSTRALIAN DEMOCRATS

SOCIAL SECURITY LEGISLATION AMENDMENT (WORK FOR THE DOLE) BILL 1997

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DISSENTING REPORT BY THE AUSTRALIAN DEMOCRATS

The Social Security Legislation Amendment (Work for the Dole) Bill 1997 amends the Social Security Act 1991 and the Data-matching Program (Assistance and Tax) Act 1990 to facilitate the Work for the Dole scheme which was announced by the Government in February.

Under the Government's proposal a series of pilot work for the dole projects involving 10,000 unemployed young people will be established over a twelve month period. These projects will be targeted primarily towards young people aged 18 to 24 years who have been out of work for more than six months. The Government has said that these work for the dole programs will be sponsored by community organisations, local or state governments and firms and will enable young unemployed people to work on community assistance and development projects in order to gain general work related skills and to establish a connection with the workforce. The Government expects participation in these programs to be on both a voluntary and compulsory basis.

The Australian Democrats' position

The Australian Democrats fully support voluntary work programs for the unemployed which bring benefits to the community and to the environment. We believe that voluntary work programs which involve at least some degree of training and are properly planned, staffed and managed have a great deal to offer both unemployed people and the communities in which they live.

The Democrats accept that participation in voluntary work programs can help to build the self-esteem and self-worth of the long-term unemployed by providing them with a sense of purpose and a sense of achievement. Participation in these programs can also assist unemployed people to develop a work ethic and a connection with the workforce by providing a structure to their day and by helping them to gain vital work related skills and experience.

When it comes to work experience schemes, however, the Democrats favour models such as that currently being established by Tony Blair in the UK, which offer a range of work and training options. The Labor Party's Work for Welfare proposal in the UK which gives unemployed young people the choice between: a private sector job where employers are offered 60 per week for 6 months to take on an unemployed young person or 70 if they take on a young person who has been unemployed for more than two years; a job in the voluntary sector; a job with an Environmental Task Force; or full time study for young people who have no qualifications, is perhaps one the Australian Government should take a closer look at. Although we acknowledge that young people in the UK who refuse to take up one of these options will be subject to a 40% reduction in their unemployment benefits, we do believe there is lot of merit in providing young people with, at least, some degree of choice.

We agree on the desirability of building closer links between unemployed people and the communities in which they live. Clearly, there are many positive things to be gained from building closer and more caring communities.

However, the Democrats are concerned about the following aspects of the current proposal: -

 

Compulsory Participation in Work Programs

Representatives from a number of organisations told the committee that they had strong objections to compelling unemployed people to work for the dole.

Representatives from organisations such as ACOSS, Welfare Rights, AYPAC, the Australian Catholic Social Welfare Commission and the Australian Council of Volunteering all voiced very strong opposition to programs which involve compulsion. Representatives from Anglicare Australia, the Brotherhood of St Laurence, The Salvation Army, the Victoria Social Justice Council, and the Moreland City Council told the committee that their organisations had already ruled out sponsoring any work for the dole program in which compulsion was involved.

Many organisations asserted that compelling people to work for the dole effectively punishes these people for the failure of the economy to create enough jobs. It shifts the blame for unemployment away from the economy and the Government by placing it firmly on the shoulders of those who are in fact the victims of unemployment. As Ms Macdonald from the Brotherhood of St Laurence explained:

Moreover, compelling young people to work for the dole sends out the wrong message to young people and to the community at large. The Government's proposal to compel young people to work for the dole, and a great deal of the rhetoric which has accompanied it, has effectively manipulated many Australians into believing that young people simply don't want to work. Mr Gager from the Victorian Social Justice Council, put this point very strongly to the committee when he stated that:

The assumption that `young people simply do not want to work' is not something which has been borne out in the Democrats' experiences or in the experiences of organisations which work directly with young unemployed people. In fact, according to Mr McAuliffe from the Brotherhood of St Laurence, most young people are very keen to work:

A number of witnesses went on to explain that making unemployed people feel that they are to blame for their unemployment will significantly undermine any positive effect participating in the Government's proposed work for the dole programs may have. Blaming the victims of unemployment for their plight may have a negative effect on them by lowering their self-esteem and feelings of self-worth. As one witness told the committee shifting the blame onto the young victims of unemployment may in fact be the thing that actually “pushes these young people over the edge”.

Representatives from some of the organisations which appeared before the committee stated that it would be a great deal more expensive to run programs which involved compulsion because people who are compelled to participate in work schemes require a great deal more support and supervision than people who chose to participate in such programs. Few organisations felt they would have an adequate level of resources to meet these additional expenses.

Some organisations were also worried that they would not have the resources to give long-term unemployed people the counselling and support they would need to successfully participate in a work for the dole program. Mrs Gallet from the Salvation Army told the committee that:

Further concerns with funding were raised by Mr Thompson, the Chief Executive Officer of Skillshare, who said that in the past significant numbers of people compelled to participate in work programs have:

Some organisations which currently use a lot of volunteers said they would not want their volunteers to work with people who had been compelled to participate because they felt it may turn volunteering into a negative experience. Ms Cordingley from the Australian Council of Volunteering stated that:

Ms Cordingley also stated that she was concerned that any move to compel people to undertake voluntary work would result in lower work standards for `real' volunteers. As she explained:

During the course of these hearings a number of comparisons were drawn between this proposal and the `Workfare' program for welfare recipients in the United States. Under Workfare many welfare recipients are forced to work for welfare benefits (including single mothers who are compelled to put their children into child care). A number of witnesses told the committee that empirical evidence suggested that some of the effects of Workfare included: the loss of paid low skill jobs and the reduction in the wages of low skilled workers. Mr Hogg from the Victoria Social Justice Council told the committee that:

 

Sponsorship of Programs which involve compulsion

As this dissenting report has already pointed out, the majority of community groups which appeared at these hearings have completely ruled out the possibility of sponsoring any work for the dole program in which unemployed people are compelled to participate.

While the Democrats note that Dr David Kemp was quoted in the Adelaide Advertiser on 21 April as saying that “those (community groups) who have some reservation about compulsion will be able to put forward proposals which are for 100 per cent voluntary (programs)” we have grave concerns about the implications of a contradictory statement made by representatives from the Department of Employment, Education, Training and Youth Affairs to this committee.

DEETYA's assertion to this committee that all potential work for the dole sponsors would have to sign a “standard form of contract that will make provision for the referral of compulsorily referred, potential participants where there are insufficient volunteers [156]” seems to effectively rule out the possibility of any organisation applying to sponsor a work for the dole program in which participation is purely voluntary.

By ruling out all potential work for the dole sponsors who are unwilling to accept compulsory participants, the Government is effectively making its proposal unworkable.

It is the Democrats' view that the Government may find it very hard to place the 10,000 people it has said will be involved in the pilot program for this scheme if the majority of community groups refuse to sponsor any work for the dole programs.

 

Link to Training and Real Job Opportunities

The Democrats share the concerns of many of the witnesses to this committee regarding the absence of any formal link between work for the dole programs, training and real employment outcomes. We agree with those who pointed out that there is an important connection between appropriate and relevant training and getting people back into real jobs.

Mr Dodds from ACOSS pointed out that:

While we note the Department's comments that achieving job outcomes [158] and providing training are not among the formal objectives of this proposal the Democrats urge the Government to give further consideration to how they could better link work for the dole programs to real training and real job opportunities.

 

Sunset Clause

The Democrats are concerned about the open nature of the current bill. This bill contains no specifications regarding who may be compelled to participate in a work for the dole program nor does it contain any reference to a sunset clause. The Department has said that the need for this legislation will be reviewed after these pilot programs have been completed but without a sunset clause we have no guarantee that this will, in fact, be the case.

Under this current bill the Government is under no obligation to review the work for the dole scheme and similar programs could be extended to all recipients of unemployment benefits at the Government's whim.

The Democrats believe it is crucial that a sunset clause be inserted into this legislation to provide important safeguards and to compel the Government to bring any future work for the dole proposals before the Parliament.

 

Workers' Compensation

There seems to be a lot of concern and confusion about whether or not work for the dole participants will be adequately covered for workers' compensation. There also seems to be a lot of confusion about exactly who will be liable to pay workers' compensation if a work for the dole participant is injured at work.

The Social Security Legislation Amendment (Work for the Dole) Bill 1997 exempts work for the dole participants from a number of Commonwealth Acts: section 9 of the Occupational Health and Safety (Commonwealth Employees) Act 1991; section 5 of Safety Rehabilitation and Compensation Act 1988; Superannuation Guarantee (Administration) Act 1992 and the Workplace Relations Act 1996.

The Department has said that exempting work for the dole participants from the Safety Rehabilitation and Compensation Act 1988 is designed to ensure that work for the dole participants are not deemed to be part of an employer/employee relationship at common law.

Although the Department has told the committee that the Commonwealth will cover work for the dole participants if they are injured at work via a Commonwealth insurance policy there still seems to be a great deal of concern about whether or not the sponsors of work for the dole programs could be liable to pay workers' compensation under common law.

Several witnesses to the committee raised concerns about the way Commonwealth laws in this area will interact with State and Territory legislation as each State and Territory has laws which cover workers' compensation although these differ between jurisdictions. While the Department told the committee that the Commonwealth is going to ask the States and Territories to amend their own laws in this area to make them compatible with Commonwealth laws, they are yet to receive confirmation that this will occur.

The Department also informed the committee however that, if the States and Territories do not amend their laws in this area, the only way we will know whether or not work for the dole participants are covered by State and Territory legislation is if it is tested in the courts.

 

Substitution effect with paid jobs

A number of witnesses told the committee that, based on overseas experience, they were concerned about the possible substitution effect the work for the dole scheme may have on paid jobs and the effect it may have on the wages of low-skilled employees.

An article from the New York Times which was presented to the committee as part of the submission from Anglicare Australia offers some disturbing examples. According to this article:

Job displacement is entering the debate over welfare reform. Across the country thousands of people on welfare are going to work, but often not at new jobs created for them as President Clinton envisioned when he signed the welfare-to-work legislation last fall. Frequently they do work once done by regular employees...Regardless of who gets the jobs, wages are held down, economists say, contributing to the income inequality that is such a national issue today...Welfare recipients move into existing jobs, or they hold down wages simply coming into the work force [159].

While the Department told the committee that not a lot of work has been done on analysing the effects of work programs on paid work and wage levels in other countries because of the difficulties associated with finding programs which are exactly the same as that proposed by the Australian Government, they did acknowledge that previous experience has shown that job displacement has been known to occur in programs where the private sector has been involved

While the Democrats acknowledge the Department's comments with regard to the unlikelihood of paid employees being displaced by work for the dole participants within the community sector, we strongly urge the Government to carefully monitor the effect of work for the dole programs on paid employment and wage levels.

Recommendations

1. The Government should delete all references to compulsion from the Bill.

2. If the change outlined in Recommendation 1. is not accepted, that the name of the bill be changed to the Social Security Legislation Amendment (Compulsory Work for Unemployment Benefits) Bill 1997.

3. The Government should investigate ways to better link the proposed work for the dole programs to formal training and real employment outcomes.

4. A sunset clause should be inserted into this bill to provide important safeguards and to compel the Government to bring any future work for the dole proposals before the Parliament.

5. The Commonwealth should finalise arrangements with the States and Territories with relation to workers' compensation liability.

6. The Government should make arrangements to closely monitor the effects work for the dole programs have on the availability of paid jobs and on the wage levels of low skilled workers.

 

Senator Meg Lees

Deputy Chair

(AD, South Australia)

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FOOTNOTES:

[148] Transcript of evidence, 18th April 1997, CA152

[149] Transcript of evidence, 18th April 1997, CA127

[150] Transcript of evidence, 18th April 1997, CA126

[151] Transcript of evidence, 18th April 1997, CA132

[152] Transcript of evidence, 18th April 1997, CA152

[153] Transcript of evidence, 18th April 1997, CA194

[154] Transcript of evidence, 18th April 1997, CA196

[155] Transcript of evidence, 18th April 1997, CA138

[156] Transcript of evidence, 7th May 1997, CA13

[157] Transcript of evidence, 28th April 1997, CA184

[158] Transcript of evidence, 7th May 1997, CA4

[159] New York Times article of 1 April 1997 submitted as part of the Anglicare Australia submission