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No. 18

Thursday, 9 October 2025

- 9:00:16 AM

1The House met, at 9 am, pursuant to adjournment. The Speaker (the Honourable M. Dick) took the Chair, made an acknowledgement of country and read prayers.

- 9:01:06 AM

2Appropriations and Administration—Standing Committee—REPORT

The Speaker presented the following document:

Appropriations and Administration—Standing Committee—Report No. 33: Annual report 2024-25—Report, October 2025.

In accordance with standing order 39(e) the report was made a Parliamentary Paper.

- 9:02:30 AM

3Treasury Laws Amendment (Payday Superannuation) Bill 2025

Dr Chalmers (Treasurer) presented a Bill for an Act to amend the law relating to superannuation, and for related purposes.

Document

Dr Chalmers presented an explanatory memorandum to this bill and the Superannuation Guarantee Charge Amendment Bill 2025.

Bill read a first time.

- 9:02:38 AM

Dr Chalmers moved—That the bill be now read a second time.

- 9:10:22 AM

Debate adjourned (Mr T Wilson), and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for the next sitting.

- 9:10:43 AM

4Superannuation Guarantee Charge Amendment Bill 2025

Dr Chalmers (Treasurer) presented a Bill for an Act to amend the Superannuation Guarantee Charge Act 1992, and for related purposes.

Bill read a first time.

- 9:11:05 AM

Dr Chalmers moved—That the bill be now read a second time.

- 9:11:46 AM

Debate adjourned (Mr T Wilson), and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for the next sitting.

- 9:12:15 AM

5Fair Work Amendment (Baby Priya’s) Bill 2025

Ms Rishworth (Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations), pursuant to notice, presented a Bill for an Act to amend the Fair Work Act 2009, and for related purposes.

Document

Ms Rishworth presented an explanatory memorandum to the bill.

Bill read a first time.

- 9:12:35 AM

Ms Rishworth moved—That the bill be now read a second time.

- 9:19:27 AM

Debate adjourned (Mr T Wilson), and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for the next sitting.

- 9:20:20 AM

6Education Legislation Amendment (Integrity and Other Measures) Bill 2025

Mr Clare (Minister for Education), pursuant to notice, presented a Bill for an Act to amend the law relating to education, overseas students and family assistance, and for related purposes.

Document

Mr Clare presented an explanatory memorandum to the bill.

Bill read a first time.

- 9:20:42 AM

Mr Clare moved—That the bill be now read a second time.

- 9:29:20 AM

Debate adjourned (Mr T Wilson), and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for the next sitting.

- 9:29:28 AM

7Corporations (Review Fees) Amendment (Technical Amendments) Bill 2025

Dr Mulino (Assistant Treasurer) presented a Bill for an Act to amend the Corporations (Review Fees) Act 2003, and for related purposes.

Document

Dr Mulino presented an explanatory memorandum to the bill.

Bill read a first time.

- 9:29:49 AM

Dr Mulino moved—That the bill be now read a second time.

- 9:31:53 AM

Debate adjourned (Mr T Wilson), and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for the next sitting.

- 9:32:30 AM

Mr Leeser sought leave to move a motion. Leave not granted.

- 9:32:51 AM

8SUSPENSION OF STANDING AND SESSIONAL ORDERS MOVED

Mr Leeser moved—That so much of the standing and sessional orders be suspended as would prevent the Member for Berowra from introducing the Crimes Amendment (Mandatory Minimum Sentences for Child Sexual Abuse) Bill 2025 without notice, with the debate being adjourned to the next sitting following the moving and seconding of the motion for the second reading.

Dr Webster, 9:42:39 AM.

- 9:48:06 AM

Ms Collins (Minister for Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry) moved—That the debate be adjourned.

- 9:48:10 AM

Question—put.

- 9:48:14 AM

Division 21

The House divided (the Speaker, Mr Dick, in the Chair)—

AYES, 83

Mr Abdo	Ms Comer	Ms C King	Mr Repacholi
Mr Albanese	Mr Conroy	Ms M M H King	Ms Rishworth
Dr Aly	Ms K Cook	Ms Lawrence	Ms Roberts
Ms Ambihaipahar	Ms T Cook	Mr Laxale	Ms Rowland
Ms Belyea	Ms Doyle	Dr Leigh	Ms J Ryan
Mr Bowen	Mrs Elliot	Mr Lim	Ms Scrymgour
Ms Briskey	Dr Freelander	Ms McBain	Ms Sitou
Mr Burke	Mr French	Ms McBride	Mr D Smith*
Mr Burnell	Dr Garland	Mr Marles	Mr M Smith
Mr Burns	Mr Georganas	Ms Mascarenhas	Mr Soon
Mr Butler	Mr Giles	Ms Miller-Frost	Ms Stanley*
Ms Byrnes	Mr Gorman	Mr Mitchell	Ms Teesdale
Ms Campbell	Mr Gosling	Mr Moncrieff	Ms Templeman
Dr Chalmers	Mr Gregg	Dr Mulino	Ms Thwaites
Dr Charlton	Mr Hill	Mr Neumann	Ms Urquhart
Ms Chesters	Mr Holzberger	Mr Ng	Ms Wells
Mr Clare	Mr Husic	Ms O’Neil	Ms White
Ms Claydon	Ms Jarrett	Mrs Phillips	Mr J Wilson
Ms Clutterham	Ms Jordan-Baird	Ms Plibersek	Ms Witty
Ms Coffey	Ms Kearney	Mr Rae	Mr Zappia
Ms Collins	Mr Keogh	Dr Reid

NOES, 43

Ms Aldred	Dr Haines	Mr L O’Brien	Mr Venning
Mr Batt	Mr Hastie	Mr Pasin	Mr Violi
Ms Bell	Mr Hawke	Ms Penfold	Mr Wallace
Mr Birrell	Mr Joyce	Mr Pike*	Dr Webster
Ms Boele	Mr Kennedy	Ms Price	Mr Wilkie
Mr Boyce	Ms Landry*	Mr Rebello	Mr Willcox
Mr Buchholz	Ms Le	Dr M Ryan	Mr R Wilson
Mr Caldwell	Mr Leeser	Dr Scamps	Mr T Wilson
Mr Chaffey	Ms Ley	Mr Small	Mr Wood
Mr Chester	Mr McCormack	Ms Spender	Mr Young
Mr Gee	Ms McKenzie	Mr Tehan

* Tellers

And so it was resolved in the affirmative.

- 9:56:02 AM

Debate adjourned and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for the next sitting.

- 9:56:36 AM

9Parliamentary Standards—Parliamentary Joint Committee—STATEMENT BY MEMBER—DOCUMENT

In accordance with the Parliamentary Workplace Support Service Act 2023, Ms Stanley (Chair) made a statement concerning the committee’s decision on the appointment of Commissioners of the Independent Parliamentary Standards Commission and, by leave, presented the following document:

- 9:58:39 AM

Parliamentary Joint Committee on Parliamentary Standards—Appointment of Commissioners of the Independent Parliamentary Standards Commission—Statement by Ms Stanley MP, Chair, 9 October 2025.

- 9:59:07 AM

10Australian Centre for Disease Control Bill 2025

The order of the day having been read for the resumption of the debate on the question—That the bill be now read a second time—

Debate resumed.

- 9:59:12 AM

Cognate debate with Australian Centre for Disease Control (Consequential Amendments and Transitional Provisions) Bill 2025.

Ms Claydon, 9:59:25 AM.

- 10:06:02 AM

Dr M Ryan moved, as an amendment—That all words after “That” be omitted with a view to substituting the following words:
“whilst not declining to give the bill a second reading, the House notes the serious mental health and broader health impact of gambling addiction in Australia, and calls on the Australian Centre for Disease Control to prioritise health prevention strategies that include the prevention of gambling harm”.

Debate ensued.

Ms Clutterham, 10:19:17 AM. Dr Haines, 10:34:22 AM. Mr Ng, 10:46:06 AM.

- 10:59:06 AM

Dr Scamps moved, as an amendment to the amendment proposed by Dr M Ryan—That all words after “House” be omitted with a view to substituting the following words:

“(1)notes that:

(a)chronic conditions:

(i)are the biggest killer in Australia, contributing to nearly 9 out of 10 deaths;

(ii)result in 6.4 million preventable hospitalisations per year costing approximately $82 billion in health expenditure; and

(iii)are estimated to cost $67.7 billion in lost labour force participation by 2030; and

(b)preventing and reducing this burden of disease would provide an estimated $8 billion in extra earnings, and $6.3 billion in welfare support and hospital admission savings annually; and

(2)calls on the Government to include prevention of chronic conditions as part of the Australian Centre for Disease Control’s mission from the outset”.

- 11:13:45 AM

Debate ensued.

Mr M Smith, 11:13:45 AM. Ms Watson-Brown, 11:27:54 AM. Ms Stanley, 11:32:12 AM. Mr McCormack, 11:39:19 AM. Ms Ambihaipahar, 11:54:25 AM. Mr Small, 12:06:50 PM. Mr Gosling, 12:21:54 PM. Ms Steggall, 12:32:25 PM. Mr Neumann, 12:42:22 PM. Ms Spender, 12:57:29 PM. Mr Lim, 1:02:36 PM.

- 1:16:38 PM

Debate adjourned (Ms McBride—Assistant Minister for Rural and Regional Health), and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for a later hour this day.

- 1:17:03 PM

11Appropriation Bill (No. 1) 2025-2026—REPORT FROM FEDERATION CHAMBER

In accordance with the resolution agreed to on 7 October 2025—

The Deputy Speaker reported that the bill had been fully considered by the Federation Chamber and agreed to without amendment, and presented a certified copy of the bill.

- 1:17:37 PM

Bill agreed to.

- 1:17:46 PM

On the motion of Ms McBride (Assistant Minister for Rural and Regional Health), the bill was read a third time.

- 1:18:11 PM

12Appropriation Bill (No. 2) 2025-2026—REPORT FROM FEDERATION CHAMBER

In accordance with the resolution agreed to on 7 October 2025—

The Deputy Speaker reported that the bill had been fully considered by the Federation Chamber and agreed to without amendment, and presented a certified copy of the bill.

- 1:18:41 PM

Bill agreed to.

- 1:18:47 PM

On the motion of Ms McBride (Assistant Minister for Rural and Regional Health), the bill was read a third time.

- 1:19:07 PM

13Appropriation (Parliamentary Departments) Bill (No. 1) 2025-2026—REPORT FROM FEDERATION CHAMBER

In accordance with the resolution agreed to on 7 October 2025—

The Deputy Speaker reported that the bill had been fully considered by the Federation Chamber and agreed to without amendment, and presented a certified copy of the bill.

- 1:19:38 PM

Bill agreed to.

- 1:19:47 PM

On the motion of Ms McBride (Assistant Minister for Rural and Regional Health), the bill was read a third time.

- 1:20:18 PM

14Australian Centre for Disease Control Bill 2025

The order of the day having been read for the resumption of the debate on the question—That the bill be now read a second time—And on the amendment moved by Dr Scamps to the amendment proposed by Dr M Ryan (see item No. 10, page XX)—

Debate resumed.

- 1:20:27 PM

Cognate debate with Australian Centre for Disease Control (Consequential Amendments and Transitional Provisions) Bill 2025.

- 1:20:27 PM

Mr Birrell addressing the House—

- 1:29:59 PM

It being 1.30 pm, the debate was interrupted in accordance with standing order 43, Mr Birrell was granted leave to continue his speech when the debate is resumed, and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for a later hour this day.

- 1:30:11 PM

15MEMBERS’ STATEMENTS

Members’ statements were made.

Mr Batt, 1:30:17 PM. Ms Coffey, 1:31:46 PM. Mr Caldwell, 1:33:18 PM. Ms Urquhart, 1:34:47 PM. Dr Haines, 1:36:24 PM. Ms Comer, 1:37:53 PM. Mr Gee, 1:39:25 PM. Ms Campbell, 1:40:47 PM. Mr Boyce, 1:42:21 PM. Ms Jordan-Baird, 1:43:51 PM. Mr Taylor, 1:45:21 PM. Ms Belyea, 1:46:56 PM. Ms Price, 1:48:30 PM. Ms Mascarenhas, 1:50:05 PM. Mr Rebello, 1:51:39 PM. Ms Miller-Frost, 1:53:05 PM. Mr Buchholz, 1:54:34 PM. Mr Burnell, 1:56:05 PM. Ms Ley, 1:57:23 PM. Mr French, 1:58:51 PM.

- 2:00:52 PM

Mr Albanese (Prime Minister), by indulgence, made a statement congratulating Professor Richard Robson, joint winner of the Nobel Prize in Chemistry 2025.

- 2:03:16 PM

Ms Ley (Leader of the Opposition), by indulgence, made a statement on the same matter.

- 2:05:10 PM

Distinguished visitor announced.

- 2:05:15 PM

16QUESTIONS

- 2:05:23 PM

(1)Ms Ley to Mr Albanese (Prime Minister)

- 2:08:58 PM

(2)Ms Miller-Frost to Mr Albanese (Prime Minister)

- 2:11:43 PM

(3)Ms Ley to Mr Burke (Minister for Home Affairs)

Point of order, Ms Ley. 2:14:47 PM.

- 2:15:41 PM

Member directed to leave

At 2.16 pm the Member for Fisher (Mr Wallace) was directed, under standing order 94, to leave the Chamber for one hour for interjecting and he accordingly left the Chamber.

- 2:15:41 PM

Questions without notice continuing—

Mr Burke, 2:16:01 PM.

- 2:16:46 PM

(4)Ms Chesters to Dr Chalmers (Treasurer)

Point of order, Mr Hawke. 2:19:05 PM. Dr Chalmers, 2:19:36 PM.

- 2:20:39 PM

Distinguished visitor announced.

- 2:20:55 PM

(5)Ms Sharkie to Mr Marles (Minister for Defence)

- 2:23:37 PM

(6)Mr Holzberger to Ms O’Neil (Minister for Housing)

- 2:27:02 PM

(7)Mr Thompson to Mr Albanese (Prime Minister)

- 2:27:40 PM

(8)Ms Lawrence to Ms Rishworth (Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations)

- 2:31:21 PM

(9)Mr Littleproud to Mr Bowen (Minister for Climate Change and Energy)

- 2:32:40 PM

(10)Mrs Elliot to Mr Rae (Minister for Aged Care and Seniors)

- 2:36:02 PM

(11)Mr Tehan to Mr Bowen (Minister for Climate Change and Energy)

Point of order, Mr Tehan. 2:38:24 PM. Mr Bowen, 2:39:18 PM. Point of order, Mr Tehan. 2:40:08 PM.

- 2:40:31 PM

Mr Tehan sought leave to table a document. Leave not granted.

- 2:40:59 PM

(12)Ms Ambihaipahar to Mr Butler (Minister for Health and Ageing)

- 2:44:23 PM

(13)Ms Spender to Mr Albanese (Prime Minister)

Point of order, Ms Spender. 2:46:40 PM. Mr Albanese, 2:47:13 PM.

- 2:48:48 PM

(14)Mr Burns to Mr Clare (Minister for Education)

- 2:52:38 PM

(15)Mr Ted O’Brien to Dr Chalmers (Treasurer)

Point of order, Mr Tehan. 2:54:46 PM.

- 2:56:46 PM

Member directed to leave

At 2.57 pm the Member for Fairfax (Mr Ted O’Brien) was directed, under standing order 94, to leave the Chamber for one hour for interjecting and he accordingly left the Chamber.

- 2:56:46 PM

Questions without notice continued.

- 2:57:15 PM

(16)Mr Abdo to Mr Giles (Minister for Skills and Training)

- 3:00:44 PM

(17)Ms Steggall to Ms Wells (Minister for Communications)

- 3:01:47 PM

(18)Ms J Ryan to Ms Plibersek (Minister for Social Services)

- 3:05:13 PM

(19)Ms Ley to Mr Albanese (Prime Minister)

Point of order, Ms Ley. 3:07:41 PM. Mr Albanese, 3:08:38 PM.

- 3:09:53 PM

(20)Mrs Phillips to Mr Bowen (Minister for Climate Change and Energy)

- 3:13:16 PM

(21)Dr Haines to Ms Rowland (Attorney-General)

- 3:16:53 PM

(22)Mr Gregg to Mr Burke (Minister for the Arts)

- 3:20:51 PM

Personal explanation, Ms Penfold.

- 3:22:03 PM

Personal explanation, Mr Albanese.

- 3:23:00 PM

17DOCUMENTS

The following documents were presented:

*Australian Skills Quality Authority (ASQA)—Report for 2024-25.

Migration Act 1958—Section 486O—Assessment of detention arrangements—Commonwealth and Immigration Ombudsman’s reports—

No. 19 of 2025—

Report.

Government response.

No. 20 of 2025—

Report.

Government response.

No. 21 of 2025—

Report.

Government response.

*Repatriation Medical Authority—Report for 2024-25.

*The documents were made Parliamentary Papers.

- 3:23:21 PM

18DISCUSSION OF MATTER OF PUBLIC IMPORTANCE—Industry and manufacturing

The House was informed that both Mr Repacholi and Mr Littleproud (Leader of The Nationals) had proposed definite matters of public importance be submitted to the House for discussion today. In accordance with standing order 46, the Speaker had given priority to the matter proposed by Mr Littleproud, namely, “This Government devastating industries and manufacturing across Australia”.

- 3:23:43 PM

The proposed discussion having received the necessary support—

- 3:23:45 PM

Mr Littleproud addressed the House.

- 3:33:49 PM

Discussion ensued.

Mr Keogh, 3:33:52 PM. Mr Willcox, 3:41:50 PM. Ms Mascarenhas, 3:46:57 PM. Ms Landry, 3:52:01 PM. Mr Mitchell, 3:56:53 PM. Mr Kennedy, 4:02:00 PM. Point of order, Mr Mitchell. 4:04:27 PM. Mr Kennedy, 4:05:01 PM. Mr Georganas, 4:07:27 PM. Mr Birrell, 4:12:35 PM. Ms Campbell, 4:17:38 PM.

- 4:22:48 PM

Discussion concluded.

- 4:23:08 PM

19Australian Centre for Disease Control Bill 2025

Debate resumed.

- 4:23:43 PM

Cognate debate with Australian Centre for Disease Control (Consequential Amendments and Transitional Provisions) Bill 2025.

Mr Birrell, 4:24:39 PM.

- 4:30:12 PM

20ADJOURNMENT

It being 4.30 pm—The question was proposed—That the House do now adjourn.

Debate ensued.

Mr Abdo, 4:30:16 PM. Mr R Wilson, 4:34:45 PM. Mr Zappia, 4:39:39 PM. Mr Gee, 4:44:42 PM. Mr Burns, 4:49:36 PM. Ms Aldred, 4:54:41 PM.

- 4:59:53 PM

The House continuing to sit until 5 pm—The Speaker adjourned the House until 10 am on Monday, 27 October 2025.

- 4:59:58 PM

DOCUMENTS

The following documents were deemed to have been presented on 9 October 2025 (An explanatory statement has been presented with each instrument unless otherwise indicated by an asterisk):

Acts Interpretation Act 1901—Statement relating to extension of time for presentation of periodic reports—Anindilyakwa Land Council—Report for 2024-25.

Mutual Recognition Act 1992—Automatic Mutual Recognition (Victoria) (Significant Risk Exemption—Teacher and Early Childhood Teacher Registration) Declaration 2025 [F2025L00679]—Replacement explanatory statement.

Parliamentary Business Resources Act 2017—Parliamentary Business Resources Regulations 2017—Advice of decision to pay assistance—22 September 2025.

Telecommunications Act 1997—Telecommunications (SMS Sender ID Register) Industry Standard 2025 [F2025L01235].

- 5:00:02 PM

ATTENDANCE

All Members attended (at some time during the sitting) except Ms Berry, Ms Coker, Mr Conaghan, *Ms Fernando, Ms France, Mr Hamilton, Mr Katter, *Ms Payne and Mr Thistlethwaite.

* On leave