Chapter 2
Jobs and Small Business portfolio
2.1
This chapter summarises certain key areas of interest raised during the
committee's consideration of additional estimates for the 2018-19 financial
year for the Jobs and Small Business portfolio.
2.2
On 20 February 2019, the committee heard evidence from:
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Senator the Hon. Linda Reynolds, former Assistant Minister for
Home Affairs (representing the Minister for Jobs and Industrial Relations, the
Hon. Kelly O'Dwyer MP);
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Senator the Hon. Michaelia Cash, Minister for Small and Family
Business, Skills and Vocational Education;
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Senator the Hon. Matthew Canavan, Minister for Industry, Science
and Technology (representing the Minister for Jobs and Industrial Relations);
and
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Senator the Hon. Marise Payne, Minister for Foreign Affairs (representing
the Minister for Jobs and Industrial Relations).
2.3
The committee also heard evidence from officers from the Department of
Jobs and Small Business (the department) and several agencies responsible for
administering jobs and small business policy. These agencies were:
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the Australian Small Business and Family Enterprise Ombudsman;
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the Fair Work Commission;
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Comcare;
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the Registered Organisations Commission;
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the Australian Building and Construction Commission; and
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the Fair Work Ombudsman.
Department of Jobs and Small Business
Cross-portfolio
2.4
The committee commenced its examination of cross-portfolio issues by enquiring
into the advertising campaign for government incentives for employers who hire
apprentices and trainees. When questioned on the budget for the advertising
campaign, it was noted that there was no specific budget for the apprenticeship
component, but rather a budget for 'a campaign promoting employment services
generally'.[1]
Dr Jill Charker, Deputy Secretary, Corporate, noted that:
A total of $27.81 million of administered funding over three
years was repurposed, and there is another $1 million in administered funding
specifically for the campaign, so the total funding over the years is
$28.81 million.[2]
2.5
Information was sought regarding the specifics of the program for
government incentives for employers who hire apprentices and trainees. When
questioned on the circumstances by which an employer would be eligible for the
full $20 500 incentive, Ms Meredith Fairweather, Branch Manager, People,
Communication and Assurance Group, responded:
That is a combination of wage subsidies—that is through the
Department of Jobs and Small Business; the providers are the medium for that—and
also incentives from the Department of Education and Training specifically for
taking on apprentices. So it's a combination. That's a maximum of a combination
of incentives that could be obtained by an employer for taking on an
apprentice.[3]
2.6
Upon further questioning, Ms Fairweather additionally noted that 'for the
employer, the full amount of $20,500 would require the full wage subsidy plus
incentives from the apprenticeship'.[4]
Outcome 1
2.7
Enquiries were made into the number of businesses that signed up to host
Youth Jobs PaTH (Prepare-Trial-Hire) interns since the commencement of the
program on 1 April 2017. Mr Nathan Smyth, Deputy Secretary, Employment, noted
that as of 31 January 2019, 3933 businesses were hosting Youth Jobs PaTH
internships.[5]
When questioned about the original intention to have between 18 000 and 20 000
businesses hosting internships, Mr Smyth noted that the program is currently
'not near the cap'.[6]
Minister Reynolds noted however that there were 8913 internship placements
within the 3933 businesses and that '70 per cent of the young people who
participated in the Youth Jobs PaTH internship were employed when surveyed
three months later'.[7]
2.8
Further enquiries were made into the Targeted Compliance Framework (TCF).
This included questions around Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander involvement
under the jobactive scheme. Mr Smyth noted that approximately 25 per cent of
individuals who were in the 'penalty zone' for jobactive were indigenous.[8]
Mr Smyth further noted that there are a similar number of ex-offenders in
the 'penalty zone'.[9]
2.9
Senators also raised the issue of the death of a worker on a Work for
the Dole site and the subsequent steps taken to improve the safety of the
program. Ms Janine Pitt, Group Manager, Activation and Work for the Dole
Group, noted that steps included 'communication with CEOs and with providers
about their obligations under the contract in terms of work health and safety'
as well as the development of a 'host organisation handbook, which also
identifies work health and safety obligations of Work for the Dole host
organisations'.[10]
Ms Pitt also noted:
We've put up advice on our provider portal about specific work
health and safety issues. We've liaised with other safety organisations, like
Safe Work Australia and the Federal Safety Commissioner, in terms of
contemporary work health and safety approaches. We're constantly looking to
improve the program in that respect, so we're doing a whole range of things.[11]
Outcome 2
2.10
Enquiries were made about the current Australian employment figures.
On casual employment, Ms Kerri Hartland, Secretary, stated that casual
employment as a proportion of total employees has remained 'steady over the
past two decades' at around 25 per cent.[12]
On labour hire figures, Mr Martin Hehir, Deputy Secretary, Workplaces and Small
Business, noted that 'over the last decade labour hire workers as a proportion
of all employees have been stable at just under two per cent'.[13]
2.11
Questions were asked in relation to the Fair Entitlements Guarantee
(FEG) and so-called 'sharp corporate practices'. Ms Sue Saunders, Branch
Manager, Workplace Relations Programs Group, noted that:
Sharp corporate practices are a range of methods and
approaches adopted by company representatives, company owners or other parties
involved in corporate restructures and insolvencies which seek to prevent,
avoid or reduce the payment of obligations to creditors, including employees
for their employee entitlements.[14]
2.12
Ms Saunders further noted that of the total FEG cases, approximately one
in seven 'presented indications of sharp practice'.[15]
2.13
Senators raised the implementation of the Fair Work Amendment (Casual
Loading Offset) Regulations 2018. When questioned if the regulations change
existing law, Ms Janey Kuzma, Group Manager and Chief Counsel, Workplace
Relations Legal Group, replied that the intention of the regulations was 'to
declare the existing law'.[16]
2.14
The contribution of small business to the Australian economy was also
discussed. Mr Peter Cully, Group Manager, Small Business and Economic Strategy
Group, noted that in 2015-16, 'small business accounted for slightly less than
5.7 million employees and around 50 per cent of Australia's employment'.[17]
In terms of the impact of economic growth caused by small business, Ms Rose
Verspaandonk, Branch Manager, Small Business and Economic Strategy Group, stated
that small business accounted for 'over a third of the $1.1 trillion economic
output produced by the private sector' in 2016-17.[18]
Australian Small Business and Family Enterprise Ombudsman
2.15
The committee discussed the implementation of a new contract clause in
the Commonwealth contracting suite which requires 'all subcontractors working
on government projects to have the same terms and conditions as the prime
contractor on the project'.[19]
When queried as to why this contract clause was added, Ms Kate Carnell,
Ombudsman, responded:
That is because the federal government had announced they
would pay their bills in 20 days, from 1 July this year, and they have said
that they're paying in 30 days to the primes, but, down the supply chain,
that's not happening. It is our experience that the smaller guys are not being
paid in the same time lines or, in some cases, on the same terms—for example,
is it from invoice or is it from end of month?
We believed it was really important that
if a prime was paid in 30 days from invoice or 30 days from end of month then
that should be reflected to the smaller people in the supply chain.[20]
Fair Work Commission
2.16
The committee commenced the questioning of the Fair Work Commission by
discussing remuneration for the commission's six deputy presidents and
commission. Ms Bernadette O'Neill, General Manager, noted the 'total
remuneration for a deputy president is presently $461,850 each' and the
'current remuneration of a commissioner is $385,350'.[21]
2.17
The committee further questioned the FWC on the significant increase in
the time taken to approve enterprise agreements. The committee heard that the
median approval time for these agreements in 2017-18 was 76
days, more than double the key performance indicator set by the FWC of 32 days.
When questioned about whether FWC staff took significant overtime in an attempt
to reduce enterprise agreement approval time, Mr Murray Furlong, Executive
Director, Tribunal Services, noted that 'there has been a significant amount of
overtime worked, certainly in the first half of the cycle'.[22]
Comcare
2.18
Questioning of Comcare related to its financial performance, workload
and the internal management system structures.[23]
Registered Organisations Commission
2.19
A line of questioning was undertaken regarding changing investigation procedures
by the Registered Organisations Commission (ROC) in response to the ongoing legal
proceedings with the Australian Workers' Union. Mr Mark Bielecki, Commissioner,
noted that procedures within the ROC are consistently and continually changing
and improving.[24]
Mr Bielecki further stated that the 'procedures and protocols for conducting
investigations' have, however, not changed recently.[25]
2.20
The committee enquired into the current legal costs of the ongoing
proceedings between the ROC and the Australian Workers' Union. Mr Bielecki stated
that 'the total litigation costs to date are $507,182.70'.[26]
Mr Bielecki further noted that the ROC had received additional invoices 'in the
sum of $42,903.01' that had currently not yet been paid.[27]
2.21
When questioned on the likelihood of further expenditure on legal costs,
Mr Bielecki replied:
Yes. The trial is ongoing. As you know, or you may not know,
there's been over 20 interlocutory hearings in the matter and it's been
necessary for the ROC to have been represented by counsel and solicitors at 19
of those. We've been in trial all of last week, and there are more hearing
days.[28]
Australian Building and Construction Commission
2.22
The committee enquired into measures in the Mid-Year Economic and Fiscal
Outlook (MYEFO) which impacted upon funding for the Australian Building and
Construction Commission (ABCC). Mr Stephen McBurney, Commissioner, responded:
Yes, there has been an announcement by the minister of
additional funding for the ABCC. That announcement was made on 12 December
2018. The minister committed additional funding of $3.7 million over four
years, commencing in 2019-20. The funding has been earmarked to engage
additional resources. Part of those additional resources are to help safeguard
workers' entitlements.[29]
2.23
Information was also sought regarding the status of ongoing
investigations by the ABCC into alleged unlawful industrial action related to
the Change the Rules rallies. Mr Cliff Pettit, Deputy Commissioner, Operations,
noted that the ABCC has 'six investigations ongoing in relation to the alleged
unlawful industrial action of workers in leaving their worksite to attend the
Change the Rules rallies'.[30]
When questioned about whether the six investigations were into individual
companies, Mr Pettit responded that 'some of the investigations relate to
an individual employer. Others relate to a project on which there were multiple
employers'.[31]
2.24
Further information was sought on the expected timeframe of these
ongoing investigations. Mr Pettit noted that 'the majority of the remaining six
[investigations] will be finished by the middle of the year [2019]'.[32]
2.25
There were also follow-up questions from the 2018-19 Supplementary
Budget Estimates round regarding the status of investigations on the Royal
Hobart Hospital site. Mr McBurney noted:
I received correspondence from the committee asking that very
question and asking for a reply as soon as possible. I responded to that letter
on 18 February 2019. I wrote to the committee and I said: 'The
investigation into the underpayment of wages is currently expected to run until
at least April 2019.' I said: 'The investigation into the payment of induction
fees is currently expected to be completed by the end of February 2019.' I
separated out those two matters because the letter I received from this
committee asked me to inform the committee as soon as each investigation is
completed and to give an indication of the likely duration of the ongoing investigations
into both allegations.[33]
Fair Work Ombudsman
2.26
The committee opened its examination of the Fair Work Ombudsman by enquiring
into comments made by the Royal Commission into Misconduct in the Banking,
Superannuation and Financial Services Industry regarding enforceable
undertakings. Ms Sandra Parker, Fair Work Ombudsman, noted that 'there are
definitely lessons, I would have thought, for all regulators from the Hayne
royal commission' before stating 'we've currently got a little team reviewing
those recommendations and asking: what do they mean for the Fair Work
Ombudsman?'[34]
2.27
The committee also enquired into the funding arrangements for the
Community Engagements Grants Program. Mr Tom O'Shea, Executive Director,
Strategic Engagement and Stakeholder Relations, responded that the program is a
'four-year rolling program of grants' and funding totalled $1.8 million to six
different recipients at 'the Northern Territory Working Women's Centre, the
Employment Law Centre of Western Australia, the South Australian Working
Women's Centre, Growcom, JobWatch and the Redfern Legal Centre'.[35]
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