Chapter 3 - Employment and Workplace Relations portfolio
Introduction
3.1
This chapter summarises areas of interest and concern raised during the
committee's consideration of the Additional Budget Estimates of the Employment
and Workplace Relations portfolio for the 2006-2007 financial year. This
section of the report follows the order of proceedings and is an indicative,
but not exhaustive, list of issues that received consideration during the
estimates’ hearings.
3.2
Evidence was heard from Senator the Hon. Eric Abetz as the Minister
representing the Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations and from
officers of the Department of Employment and Workplace Relations (DEWR) and
related agencies, including:
- Office of the Australian Building and Construction Commissioner
(ABCC);
- Australian Fair Pay Commission (AFPC);
- Comcare; Office of the Employment Advocate (OEA); and
- Office of Workplace Services (OWS).
3.3
Senators present at the hearing were Senator Troeth (Chairman), Senator
Marshall (Deputy Chair) and Senators Barnett, Crossin, Fifield, Lightfoot, Lundy,
McEwen, McGauran, Patterson and Siewert.
Department of Employment and Workplace Relations
Outcome
1 — Efficient and effective labour market assistance
Outcome 3 — Increased workforce participation
3.4
Senator Wong began the questioning of the department on the budget
allocations for vocational rehabilitation services and the $22 million increase
in the portfolio additional estimates 2006-07. This questioning lead to the
issue of forward estimates. The Secretary, Dr Peter Boxall, declined to provide
the figures, in keeping with previous decisions, citing that it is not
government policy to publish them.
3.5
Other topics discussed included:
- Job Network;
- Newstart Allowance;
- Cyclone Larry wage assistance; and
- Textile, Clothing and Footwear structural adjustment package
3.6
A lengthy discussion followed on the membership of the Disability
Advisory Group and the compulsory confidentiality agreement. Senator Wong
questioned DEWR officials about the peak disability group—Australian Federation
of Disability Organisations—not being represented because of their refusal to
sign a confidentiality agreement. Senator Wong wanted to know more about this
confidentiality agreement and her questions were taken on notice by the minister
and the department. The procedural matters arising from this line of
questioning are described later in this report.
3.7
Further questioning concerned the Community Development Employment
Projects and the Australian Indigenous Leadership Centres. Senator Crossin
raised matters regarding leadership training courses, capacity building plans,
governance training and risk assessment.
3.8
Senator Siewert questioned the department in regard to answers received
previously on Newstart Allowance, principal career and foster carer
arrangements.
3.9
Final issues raised by the committee included:
- Disability Employment Network;
- Job Capacity Assessments;
- Job Seeker Accounts;
- Jobs in Jeopardy;
- Workplace Modifications Scheme;
-
Disability Support Pension;
- Pensioner Education Supplement;
- Mobility Allowance; Personal Support Programme; and
- Social Security Appeals Tribunal appeals.
Office of the Employment Advocate
3.10
The OEA was asked why the committee was yet to receive a single answer
to questions taken on notice at the previous estimates hearing. The Employment
Advocate, Mr Peter McIlwain, explained that all answers had been provided to
the department before the deadline. The responsibility of tabling the answers
rested with the minister's office and not the OEA. Committee members agreed
that senators should not ask the same questions again if they were placed on
notice at the previous hearing.
3.11
Much of the questioning of the OEA focussed on Australian
Workplace Agreements (AWAs), dealing with such matters as the number and
content of AWAs, lack of data collection and methodology for analysing that
data. Senator McEwen also questioned the officers on the Agreement-Making
Partnership Program and the membership of the OEA partner program.
3.12
The committee also heard that the directive to cease collecting AWA
data, including effects on protected award conditions, was given to the OEA in
late June 2006. The OEA further advised that there is no formal project
underway as yet to develop new methodology to again collect and analyse AWA
statistics. The OEA advised, however, that data is still being collected on the
number of AWAs lodged by electorate. This discussion generated articles in the
press relating to the absence of data on the effects AWAs are having on
workers' conditions.
Australian Building and Construction Commission
3.13
Questioning commenced with Senator McEwen inquiring into the number of
inspectors in each state and territory as well as the number of prosecutions
since Work Choices commenced. Senator Marshall followed with questions about
the details of the inspection process, covering the following matters:
interview process, compliance powers, prohibited contents of side agreements
and penalties incurred for breaches.
3.14
Further questioning covered compliance by employers with the Workplace
Relations Act and the ABCC compliance monitoring processes. Questions also
dealt with the ABCC's future compliance and prosecution roles under the new
Independent Contractors Act.
3.15
Finally, questions were asked on the appointment of union officials as
OH&S inspectors in the Tasmanian building and construction industry. Senator
Barnett sought an update on the status of this trial after concerns were
raised by the Master Builders Association and other organisations.
Australian Fair Pay Commission
3.16
The committee asked about the wage review timetable and the
consultation process that the secretariat has set for 2007. Other issues
canvassed included vacant positions, commissioned research, focus groups and
junior wage consultations.
Office of Workplace Services
3.17
Senator Lundy asked questions about restaurant audits in Canberra,
inquiring into how much money has been recovered and paid to employees.
Questions were also asked on the progress of the national audit of the
restaurant industry and the process for the selection of restaurants to be
audited.
3.18
Senator Marshall followed with questions on the procedure for initiating
prosecutions and whether the government or DEWR has any involvement therein.
Questioning then moved to the current investigation of Tristar. Senator
Marshall finished with questions about 457 visa workers and OWS's jurisdiction
for enforcement in this area.
3.19
Final questioning revolved around general OWS operating issues and the
additional appropriations allocated to expand compliance and enforcement
activities in regional areas.
Comcare
3.20
There were questions on the number of investigators operating nationwide
and the extent of their investigative powers.
3.21
Senator Marshall continued with questions on deeming rates for
compensation claims. A document was tabled by the CEO of Comcare giving a
specific example of the effect of a variable deeming rate on compensation
payments.
Department of Employment and Workplace Relations (continued)
Cross-portfolio
3.22
During the day's proceedings there were a number of questions regarding
the late submission of answers to questions taken on notice at the previous
estimates hearing.[1]
The Chairman expressed the committee's concern that some 400 answers remained
outstanding. The committee acknowledged that an unusually large amount, some
800 questions, were taken on notice and requested that greater attention be
paid to outstanding questions on notice.[2]
DEWR responded by saying that answers are sent to the minister's office as soon
as practicable.
3.23
A discussion followed on advertising expenditure for the department,
specifically the Work Choices campaign. The department responded by referring
the senator to the additional estimates statements which showed that the
Employer Advisory Program is the only additional funding for this financial
year. Further questions followed about the participants and organisation of the
Employer Advisory Program.
3.24
Senator Marshall continued with questions concerning the AWA database
and the report scheduled for tabling by 30 June 2007. The discussion centred on
whether the department had sufficient data to compile a report to sufficiently
meet the standards as required by law. Senator Wong and Marshall asked
questions at length about the content of the DEWR database and the process for
analysing AWAs. DEWR took questions on notice regarding what conditions and
changes tracked in the database and the date this database was designed.
3.25
Other matters raised were:
- Expenditure on Welfare to Work advertising campaigns;
- Modelling undertaken by DEWR in regards to Work Choices;
- Ministerial advice regarding the dispute at Tristar Steering and
Suspension; and
- DEWR staffing issues including staff travel
Outcome 2 — Higher productivity,
higher pay workplaces
3.26
DEWR was asked a series of questions in relation to mines and
occupational health and safety, including DEWR research or other activities in
relation to the development of a national safety scheme. Questions were also
asked on mine managers' liability and the shortage of mine managers.
3.27
The committee asked further questions in relation to amendments to the
Work Choices legislation, including:
- Stand-downs;
- Provision of the Information Statement;
- Redundancy entitlements;
- Disputed redundancy matters; and
- AWA duress
Matters of procedural significance
3.28
Before proceeding to outline matters examined during the hearing, the
Committee draws attention to a matter of procedural significance that arose
while taking evidence.
Refusal to answer questions
3.29
During the committee's examination of outcomes 1 and 3, the department
again refused to answer questions regarding the timeframe in which matters are
dealt with by the minister's office. The department had previously refused to
answer such questions at the budget estimates hearings in June 2006, as
described in the 2006-07 budget estimates report of this committee.[3]
3.30
This round, Senator Wong again asked questions in relation to dates when
legal advice had been sought, this time about confidentiality agreements for
the Disability Advisory Group. There was also an additional question about when
the Minister first requested the preparation of a confidentiality document.
Once again Mr Jeremy O'Sullivan, answering for the department, refused to
answer these questions by invoking subsection 13(6) of the Public Service
Act 1999. This subsection requires an Australian Public Service employee to
maintain 'appropriate confidentiality' in dealings with ministers or their
staff.
3.31
In pursuit of an answer, Senator Wong pointed out that it was common
practice for other departments to provide answers about when legal advice was
sought or given. Senator Wong tabled procedural advice from the Clerk of the
Senate. This advice had been sought after the statements made by Mr O'Sullivan
at the budget estimates, and is attached at Appendix 3. In this advice, the
Clerk notes that in 2003 the Government accepted the long-held principle that a
general statutory secrecy provision does not apply to the disclosure of
information in parliament or any of its committees unless the provision is
framed to have such an application.
3.32
Further questioning continued after the morning tea break where Mr O'Sullivan
reiterated that he objected to answering the questions, based on his reading of
the Public Service Act, and also on the grounds of a possible breach of legal
professional privilege. The committee heard no basis for this latter claim.
After a few more exchanges, the chairman confirmed that the committee accepted Mr
O'Sullivan's objections, which provoked dissent from Senators Wong and Marshall.
The chairman called for a private meeting of the committee at a later hour to
consider the matter.
3.33
At the subsequent private meeting the committee agreed to the proposal
that a statement be read into Hansard to counter the possibility of the dispute
arising at future estimates hearings. The chairman read the following
statement:
The committee met in private before lunch today to discuss the
issue which arose from Senator Wong's questioning of the department on the date
on which legal advice had been sought. It notes the claim by Mr O'Sullivan that
an attempt to answer the question would involve him in a breach of section
13(6) of the Public Service Act. It noted advice to Senator Wong from the Clerk
of the Senate on 6 June 2006, which was tabled at the hearing, which includes
advice from the Solicitor-General. However, in view of the possibility that
such a dispute may arise again, the committee has agreed that in future,
officers should not rely on such a claim. The committee notes that the
opportunity already exists for officers to refer a matter to the minister at
the table. In the meantime, the committee draws the attention of the Clerk's
advice to the department.[4]
3.34
The committee will monitor proceedings at the budget estimates hearings to
satisfy itself that notice has been taken of this statement.
Acknowledgements
3.35
The committee thanks the ministers, departmental secretaries and
officers for their assistance and cooperation during the hearings.
Senator Judith Troeth
Chairman
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