CHAPTER TWO

CHAPTER TWO

Matters for consideration

2.1 The matters before the Committee are of serious moment. The particular questions on which the Committee is required to make a determination are best set out in the advice of 30 August 1995 from the Clerk of the Senate:

2.2 Before the Committee reaches conclusions on the issues of fact addressed by these questions it has decided to discuss the underlying question whether the protection afforded by parliamentary privilege extends to the provision of information by other persons to members of parliament. The Committee's views on this matter are influenced by the analysis provided in the Clerk's advice, the relevant extracts of which are:

2.3 The Clerk then addresses the substantive issue of principle as to whether it would be lawful for the Senate to treat as a contempt interference with communication of information to senators by other persons:

2.4 The Clerk's views are supported by advice received from the Law and Public Administration Group of the Parliamentary Library. In responding to the Committee's request for advice on the scope of legal professional privilege, the paper also offered observations on the scope of parliamentary privilege which are consonant with the Clerk's analysis. The paper concludes with the following summary:

2.5 After the matter was referred, Senator O'Chee, in both written and oral submissions, drew to the Committee's attention attempts on behalf of Mr Rowley to seek access to the Senator's constituency files and his intention to apply for an order for discovery in relation to those files (and see paragraph 1.20 above). This matter, too, caused the Committee concern, because of the implications for all members of parliament in the performance of their duty. Evidence was given at the public hearing that such access was sought in relation to such comments made outside the Parliament and subject to defamation action. While the Committee did not itself seek formal advice from the Clerk on this question, it has had access to general comment he has made on the subject:

Comment

2.6 Before reporting its conclusions on both the issues of principle and the issues of fact, the Committee wishes first to address the two matters of law on which Bottoms English has made comment (see paragraph 1.25 above). Briefly, Bottoms English declared that the provision of information to members of parliament is not covered by privilege, citing the case of Grassby in support; and that, as a matter of law, the taking of legal proceedings against a person cannot constitute contempt.

2.7 Further advice was sought from the Clerk on the implications of the judgment in the Grassby case, which involved a prosecution for criminal libel in respect of the provision of a document to a member of the New South Wales Parliament. The Clerk's response was provided in the context of the two questions discussed at paragraphs 2.2 and 2.3 above, and concluded that, for the reasons set out in the response, it could not be regarded as an authority on any aspect of either of the two issues. Bottoms English also referred to a challenge to the validity of section 16 of the Parliamentary Privileges Act 1987, which was at the time before the Queensland Supreme Court and is currently before the High Court of Australia. Senator O'Chee has also taken action before the Supreme Court of Queensland seeking clarification of the scope of privilege under that section. Both cases are at present undecided, but the Commonwealth has intervened in the High Court action.

2.8 The statement by Bottoms English on the question whether a court action can constitute contempt is simply wrong. In one of its earliest cases (see 18th report) the Committee based much of its deliberation on advice that:

2.9 That advice in respect of parliament was reinforced by reference to an analogous case of contempt of court, R v Kellett (1976) 1QB 372, which is also discussed in the Law and Public Administration paper for the present committee.[7] It is noteworthy that, during the hearing in Brisbane on 16 April, the Bottoms English view was not restated by any of the witnesses or legal advisers.

2.10 A further question, which was of primary concern to the Queensland Law Society, the Law Council of Australia, and counsel, particularly Sir James Killen, on behalf of Mr Rowley, involved the sub judice implications of the Committee's examination of the matters referred by the Senate. It was claimed by all these parties that the Committee's consideration of the reference could not avoid impinging upon, and by implication interfering with, judicial determination of defamation actions outstanding between Mr Rowley, Senator O'Chee, Mr Armstrong and others. The Committee believes, and the parties seem generally to accept, that it satisfied the concerns about its comprehension of the sub judice doctrine and the doctrine's limited application to the present case, and draws attention to paragraph 1.39 above.

Analysis

2.11 When inquiring into any matter referred to it, the Committee is required to take into account three criteria, laid down in Privilege Resolution 3, the first of which is:

2.12 In considering the matter under this criterion, the Committee has weighed two important, and perhaps potentially conflicting, principles. On the one hand, it is vital for the proper functioning of a house of parliament that information is produced to the maximum extent possible to enable proper decision making. Any obstruction of the free flow of information may be regarded as having the effect of substantially obstructing senators in the performance of their functions. Such an obstruction may be improperly intended by persons who take otherwise lawful legal action against persons who provide information to a senator. Whether such legal action may be regarded as improper obstruction must be determined in each individual case. In making a judgment as to whether the obstruction was improper the Committee would be influenced by evidence as to whether a person with ready access to the law was using legal action as a bludgeon against others who are properly raising matters for the consideration of elected members of parliament. It must be noted that, even if a person against whom action has commenced finds either that there is a defence to that action or the action is not proceeded with, there is generally considerable time and expense involved in responding to the action in its earliest stages.

2.13 On the other hand, the Committee accepts and recognises the right of persons to bring action against other persons who are alleged to have caused them harm. Clearly, the Committee would not contemplate providing protection for a person who had simply sought cover for acts done with malice where this would provide a defence against the operation of the law. In this regard, the Committee must rely at least in part on the responsibility and good judgment of any senator through whose actions protection may be accorded to materials and information provided. If all information given to senators for the purpose of speeches to the Senate is covered by privilege, there may be some danger that Senate privilege could be used to protect documents and files which may be required in court proceedings. This is especially true of primary documents which do not exist in any other form. The only sanction open to the Senate for the misuse of material is its own contempt powers.

Terms of reference (a)threats of legal proceedings against persons providing information to Senator O'Chee

2.14 At the commencement of this present case, the Committee believed it was dealing with three separate claims, made by Senator O'Chee, that action has been taken as a consequence of his raising in the Senate matters on behalf of his constituents. During evidence at the public hearing, it became clear that Mr Rowley has several defamation actions outstanding against persons not previously known to the Committee. However, as no question of parliamentary privilege has been raised in respect of the other legal actions the Committee has confined itself to the questions initially raised by Senator O'Chee.

(i) Threatened legal action against Mr Ron Crew

2.15 The first of these relates to Mr Ron Crew, against whom legal action was allegedly threatened as a result of his presumed provision to Senator O'Chee of a photograph tabled in the Senate by Senator O'Chee on 8 June 1995. Documents before the Committee indicate that the first time Senator O'Chee became aware that such action was to be taken was through a note to Senator O'Chee from his executive assistant advising of Mr Crew's concerns.[8] This appears to have occurred on 6 July. The basis of the claim against Mr Crew was an alleged admission in the Cairns Post on 9 June 1995 (subsequently established to be 10 June 1995) that he had supplied to Senator O'Chee the tabled photograph.[9]

2.16 Evidence presented to the Committee showed that the initial approach to Mr Crew on behalf of Mr Rowley was based on what turned out to be the mistaken assumption that he had given the photograph in question to Senator O'Chee.[10] Presumably on discovering that the Cairns Post report was inaccurate, Mr Rowley decided to take no further action. The Committee did not pursue the matter any further because, although it contacted Mr Crew on several occasions, he did not make any submissions to it, or appear as a witness.

(ii) Legal action against Cairns Professional Game Fishing Association

2.17 The second action taken on behalf of Mr Rowley is in respect of the Cairns Professional Game Fishing Association (CPGFA). This action relates primarily to a submission made by the CPGFA to ECTUNAMAC. The fourth paragraph of the statement of claim mentions among some 60 organisations and individuals Senator O'Chee as a person who would have understood the matters raised in that submission as referring to the plaintiff, Mr Rowley. It is not claimed in the statement that Senator O'Chee had access to or used the submission in the Senate, and no other reference is made to Senate proceedings.[11]

2.18 The defendants to the claim admit that they made a submission to ECTUNAMAC but then go on to deny the imputations made in the statement. In addition, in the CPGFA's letter to the Committee it is clear that the Association regards itself as having action taken against it in respect of the submission made to ECTUNAMAC. The letter admits that, although the submission was marked "confidential , not for public distribution", it was handed to Mr Ron Crew, as National Party candidate for Barron River, by Susan Mason as Secretary of the CPGFA. She also provided certain photographs to Mr Crew.[12]

2.19 That the Association did not regard itself as involved with the matter of privilege is supported by its declining the Committee's invitation to make any further written or oral submissions on the matter.

2.20 Thus, although the Committee notes that Senator O'Chee has raised the question of the action taken against the CPGFA in the context of the Association's provision of information to him for use in the Senate, it appears to the Committee, and the defence to Mr Rowley's claim recognises, that any such action does not arise out of the provision of information to a senator for the purpose of or incidental to the transaction of the business of the Senate. These conclusions were reinforced by oral evidence at the hearing on 16 April.

(iii) Legal action against Mr David Armstrong

2.21 The third action is against Mr David Armstrong, formerly manager of a company of which Mr Rowley is a director and shareholder. In this case, the link between Mr Armstrong's provision of information to Senator O'Chee and the action taken against him is clear. The letter of demand against Mr Armstrong is based solely on speeches made in the Senate[13] (and in the Queensland Parliament, with which this Committee is not further concerned). Similarly, the statement of claim delivered on 25 August 1995 implied that the only knowledge that Mr Armstrong had given information to Senator O'Chee was Senator O'Chee's use of that information in the Senate.[14]

2.22 The Bottoms English letter of 18 June 1996 advised that action against Mr Armstrong was continuing,[15] and this was confirmed during the Committee's hearing.[16] The June 1996 letter also mentioned the televised broadcast of allegations on the program A Current Affair, but it is clear from the context of the Bottoms English letter that the initial action was taken before such a broadcast, as the firm mentioned the broadcast to illustrate only that the persons concerned in the matter before the Committee have not been intimidated as a result of Mr Rowley's actions. This, too, was confirmed during the Committee's hearing on 16 April.[17]

2.23 It also emerged from the hearing that the `publication' on which Mr Rowley relied in both the letter and the statement of claim is oral information given by Mr Armstrong to Senator O'Chee, at the suggestion of Senator O'Chee's other constituents at earlier meetings with Senator O'Chee. There is no record of Mr Armstrong's information other than notes taken by Senator O'Chee of the conversation with Mr Armstrong.[18] These notes which, it appears, have been seen neither by Mr Armstrong nor by Mr Rowley or his legal representatives, formed the basis of Senator O'Chee's speech in the Senate. In the Committee's view, there could be no clearer connection between the provision of information to a Senator and that Senator's use of information in Senate proceedings.

2.24 When considering the matter last year, the Committee did not have available to it the defence raised by Mr Armstrong in response to Mr Rowley's statement of claim. It expected, wrongly as it turned out, that Mr Armstrong's lawyers would have filed as a defence on his behalf that the identification of Mr Armstrong as the source of information to Senator O'Chee was made in the Senate and thus could not be used in actions against him. An amended defence made available to the Committee at the hearing[19] did not include any such defence, which puzzled the Committee given that the inadmissibility of matters raised in parliamentary proceedings in support of court action is well recognised in the courts. Even if this defence had been raised, as in the Committee's view it clearly should have been, the Committee suggests that this is cold comfort to Mr Armstrong who has been put to the expense and stress of defending an action which resulted from his provision of information to a senator.

Terms of reference (b)threat of legal proceedings against Senator O'Chee

2.25 The second element of the terms of reference concerns whether a threat of legal proceedings was made against Senator O'Chee in respect of his activities as a senator. In raising the primary matter of privilege with the then President of the Senate, and this Committee, Senator O'Chee also drew to attention the threat he perceived as having been made by Mr Rowley to prosecute him in the event that he raised a matter of privilege.[20]

2.26 In response, Bottoms English made the following written statement:

2.27 After some robust exchanges during the hearing, it was clear to the Committee that the several exchanges of letters between Senator O'Chee and Bottoms English on behalf of their client, Mr Rowley, could not be regarded by any objective observer as other than antagonistic.

2.28 The Committee also discovered in the course of its inquiry that action for defamation had been taken against Senator O'Chee in respect of statements made outside the Senate -- action which, at the time of its hearing, was being vigorously pursued, notably through attempts to discover documents which Senator O'Chee advised the Committee included constituency files. The Committee would not wish to deny any person a right to take action against any person for matters raised outside the Senate, and Senator O'Chee has himself not raised this action against him as a question of privilege. Indeed, he advised the Committee that it was in his interest to produce the documents without demur in his defence against the action, but chose not to do so because of his concerns to protect his informants in the fisheries matter.[22] As a consequence, Senator O'Chee has claimed that these files are privileged, and it is this question which is currently before the Queensland Supreme Court. The Committee does not consider it appropriate to make any further comment on the specific case, as the scope of privilege is a matter for the courts to determine.

2.29 In this context, the Committee also draws attention to questions raised both before and during the Committee's hearing, by Mr Rowley's lawyers and the various law bodies, in the case of Katter v. Laurance. The Committee notes that judgments delivered in the Queensland Supreme Court were divided as to the scope of section 16 of the Parliamentary Privileges Act, and the majority decision is at present the subject of an appeal to the High Court. Accordingly, the Committee makes no further comment on this matter either, other than to say that it will welcome a judicial interpretation of the scope of subsection 16(2), to assist in all parliamentary deliberations on the question.

2.30 As to the question whether Senator O'Chee was the subject of a "threat" of legal proceedings through the reference in a letter dated 10 July 1995[23] to a section of the Queensland Criminal Code, this is not materially different in substance from Senator O'Chee's actions in similarly drawing to the attention of Bottoms English his possible recourse to the Senate's contempt powers. The Committee, noting the injunction in resolution 3(a) that the Senate's power to adjudge contempt should be used sparingly, does not consider under that paragraph that the letter from Bottoms English amounts to an improper act tending substantially to obstruct Senator O'Chee in the performance of his functions.

Term of reference (c)whether contempts were committed

2.31 As its comments on terms of reference (a) and (b) illustrate, the Committee now confirms its tentative conclusion conveyed to all parties on 14 February 1997 that any question of contempt was likely to revolve around the legal action taken against Mr Armstrong. During its deliberations, and following representations made during the hearing, the Committee gave consideration to whether at any time it should have sought from the Senate an expansion of its terms of reference to deal with the circumstance that the "threat" of legal proceedings against Mr Armstrong was actually realised. At the time Senator O'Chee raised possible legal actions with the President of the Senate as a matter of privilege they had gone no further than letters of demand and, in respect of Senator O'Chee, a less than subtle warning against the consequences of his raising the matter with the President. However, the Committee concluded that no change was required. The pursuit of the charge could suggest that Mr Rowley was determined to take all reasonable steps to do as he had every right to do: clear his name. Alternatively, Mr Rowley might have pursued his claim for the purpose of punishing Mr Armstrong, and deterring others from making their allegations known. The Committee's finding is not dependent on whether the threat was carried out, but rather involves an evaluation of the intention behind the commencement of legal action taken against Mr Armstrong.

2.32 In previous reports, the Committee has emphasised that motive has been a dominant factor in reaching a conclusion as to whether contempt should be found. Its importance was underlined in a submission by the Queensland Law Society following the hearing of 16 April, in which it was argued that any intention of Mr Rowley to intimidate or punish persons through defamation action following their provision of information to Senator O'Chee could not be inferred by the Committee from the evidence before it.[24]

2.33 The Committee notes this submission but believes there is a possibility of making a finding as to motive for both the threatened, and the continuing, action. For example, Mr Rowley gave evidence at the hearing that his primary concern was with the integrity of his reputation. Given that the matter of concern to him was raised in the Senate, the Committee asked him, in the light of his already declared understanding and knowledge of the Parliamentary Privileges Act and Resolutions, whether he considered exercising his right under Resolution 5 to respond in the same forum as Senator O'Chee's adverse comments.

2.34 Mr Rowley advised the Committee that, although he was aware of the procedure, his legal advice was that he should take defamation action.[25] While the Committee acknowledges the general right of aggrieved persons to avail themselves of appropriate legal action, it emerged in the course of the evidence that the only conduct and source relied on by Mr Rowley as constituting his cause of action for defamation is the speech made in the Senate (and the Queensland Legislative Assembly). As it is established principle that such information cannot be used in legal proceedings, it is unfortunate that, if Mr Rowley was aggrieved, he did not avail himself of the Senate procedures to correct any alleged misrepresentations as to his business activities.

2.35 Moreover, it would appear that Mr Armstrong has available a complete defence to the defamation proceedings in that his identification as the provider of the alleged defamation information to Senator O'Chee as part of Senate proceedings is inadmissible. This should have been apparent to Mr Rowley's legal advisers, particularly following the reference to the Committee.

2.36 Mr Rowley and his legal advisers were aware of the possible implications of continuing with the action. It may have been reasonable for Mr Rowley and his legal advisers to have initiated the action, without being fully cognisant of the implications of parliamentary privilege. However, having been alerted, firstly by Senator O'Chee and subsequently through their dealings with the Senate and the Committee, to the serious nature of proven contempt of the Senate, the Committee is entitled to infer that the action has been deliberately continued in complete disregard of the consequences.

2.37 Evidence given to the Committee by both Senator O'Chee and Mr Armstrong leads it to conclude, on balance, that the action was intended to punish Mr Armstrong, and to deter others from pursuing the matter as a result of the action against Mr Armstrong. Mr Rowley's action, while legal and in his view entirely justified as a means of protecting his integrity, could thus be regarded as giving rise to a conclusion that a contempt has been committed.

Conclusions

2.38 The Committee is left with the task of determining the matters of principle involved in the current reference. As the President and Clerk of the Senate have both observed, the question whether the provision of information to a Senator in a situation such as the Committee has examined should be regarded as proceedings in Parliament, on the ground that it is for purposes of or incidental to the transacting of business of the Senate or of a committee, is not critical for the purpose of determining whether a contempt has been committed. The Committee recognises, however, that if the Committee were so to conclude, it would clearly be open to the Senate to protect the provision of information.

2.39 The question for the Committee then becomes whether the connection between the provision of information and its use is so strong in the present case as to warrant a conclusion that a contempt has been committed. It notes that questions relating to the scope of section 16 of the Parliamentary Privileges Act 1987 are at present before both the Supreme Court of Queensland and the High Court. The Committee in discharging its duty to the Senate has determined that it should make a finding based on the ground that the communication of information by Mr David Armstrong to Senator O'Chee should be protected as proceedings in Parliament under subsection 16(2) of the Parliamentary Privileges Act. This is because of the use in the Senate by Senator O'Chee of the information given to him by Mr Armstrong and the close proximity of the action taken against Mr Armstrong following his identification in the Senate as the source of Senator O'Chee's information.

2.40 The Committee sees this as a clear example of information being provided to a Senator for the purposes of transacting business in the Senate, as provided under the Parliamentary Privileges Act. One of the essential purposes of Mr Armstrong's raising the question of possible illegal taking of marlin with Senator O'Chee was, in the terms of section 16 of the Parliamentary Privileges Act 1987, "for purposes of or incidental to" the transacting of business in the Senate, thereby coming within the definition of "proceedings in Parliament" under subsection 16(2) of the Act. In evidence to the Committee, corroborated by Senator O'Chee, Mr Armstrong continually explained that he both expected and wanted the matter raised in the Senate, and Senator O'Chee did in fact do so.[26]

2.41 Argument was put to the Committee that this interpretation represents an "extension" of the law of parliamentary privilege. The Committee is of the view that it is consistent with legal principle and parliamentary practice. Committee members are aware of the necessary continuity of process between the provision of information to a senator and its use by that senator in parliamentary proceedings. As was suggested during the hearing, this is analogous to the protection of information given by clients to their legal advisers for the purpose of legal proceedings. The interests of justice demand that information provided to a lawyer by a client, with the intention and for the purpose of its use in court proceedings, is protected. If information passing between a senator and that senator's constituent for the purpose of its use in Senate proceedings is not similarly protected, subject to the sanction of the Senate under its contempt powers, then the legislative interest may be undermined.

2.42 It is not in dispute that the first knowledge by Mr Rowley that information had been given to Senator O'Chee came from Senator O'Chee's exposition in the Senate of the concerns about illegal taking of marlin. Senator O'Chee's submission of 22 May 1996 advises that he was approached by a "delegation of constituents" early in 1995.[27] On the basis of information provided at that meeting and subsequently, with the information being corroborated by Mr Armstrong on the suggestion of these constituents, he first raised the matter in the Senate on 8 June. Legal proceedings were commenced on behalf of Mr Rowley following newspaper reports of those proceedings, including most potently Senator O'Chee's identification in the Senate of Mr David Armstrong as a primary source of the information.

2.43 The Committee observes that it also has the capacity to make a finding without addressing the question whether the oral publication of information by Mr Armstrong to Senator O'Chee is covered by privilege under section 16 of the Act. The taking of legal action against Mr Armstrong could, in the Committee's view, be regarded as having the effect or tendency of hindering Senator O'Chee in the free performance of his duties. The Committee indicates that, on this ground too, it makes a similar finding.

2.44 The Committee is now in a position to answer the questions posed at paragraph 2.1 of this chapter as follows:

Did any threats of legal proceedings which may have been made against persons have as their focus the provision of information by those persons to Senator O'Chee?

any possible threat of legal proceedings against Mr Ron Crew was not pursued by the Committee in the absence of relevant evidence on the matter;

the threat of legal proceedings, subsequently realised, against the Cairns Professional Game Fishing Association did not relate to the provision of information to Senator O'Chee, but rather to the submission made by the organisation to ECTUNAMAC; and

the threat of legal proceedings, subsequently realised, could be construed as having as its focus the provision of information by Mr David Armstrong to Senator O'Chee.

Was that provision of information connected with actual or potential proceedings in the Senate or a committee or with proceedings contemplated by Senator O'Chee, and, if so, what was the nature of that connection?

The provision of information by Mr Armstrong was directly connected with actual proceedings in the Senate, and threats of legal proceedings, subsequently realised, came as a direct result of the use made of information provided by Mr David Armstrong to Senator O'Chee.

Did any such threat of legal proceedings have the effect of interfering or tendency to interfere with the free performance by Senator O'Chee of his duties as a senator?

(i) The threat of legal proceedings, subsequently realised, was made after Senator O'Chee initially raised matters in the Senate, and apparently did not deter him from the free performance of his duties in the Senate, as he raised matters connected with the proceedings on several occasions after the threats had been made.
(ii) The "threat" of legal proceedings against Senator O'Chee made by Bottoms English on behalf of Mr Rowley in a letter dated 10 July 1995, although made in respect of Senator O'Chee's activities as a senator, could not be regarded as having the effect or tendency of obstructing his performance of his duties as a senator.

Were any threats of legal proceedings made with the intention of influencing the use of the information so provided in actual, contemplated or potential proceedings in the Senate or a committee?

The Committee has concluded that the threats, and the carrying out of the threats, by commencing the legal proceedings could be construed as intended to prevent the provision of further information, by both Mr Armstrong and others, to Senator O'Chee and thus intended to influence the use of information so provided in actual and contemplated proceedings in the Senate.

FINDINGS

In respect of term of reference (a)

In respect of term of reference (b)

In respect of term of reference (c)

Penalty

2.45 Senator O'Chee's first submission to the Committee suggested that if the Committee were to find that a contempt had been committed, it should recommend to the Senate a series of remedial and punitive actions.[28] The Committee has decided that no penalty should be imposed. Given the unusual circumstances of the case, and the difficulties involved in making a judgment between the conflicting principles discussed in this report, the Committee considers it inappropriate to recommend a penalty against a person who regarded himself as exercising his legal rights, particularly as his actions at all times were taken after seeking legal advice. The inquiry process itself, and the findings the Committee has made, are in the Committee's view of sufficient moment to alert the person concerned, and others who might otherwise attempt or advise similar intimidatory action, to the seriousness with which such matters are regarded by the Senate.

Observations

2.46 In the present case the Committee does not intend to definitively state principles of general application. The Committee recognises the potential for abuse of the principle that the protection of information conveyed to a senator in connection with proceedings in Parliament should take precedence over a person's available rights under the law. While, as its present finding makes clear, the Committee does not endorse legal processes being used to intimidate persons with a legitimate right and indeed duty to give information to a member of parliament, senator or a committee, equally, the Committee would not wish to see an inappropriate use of the "proceedings in Parliament" provision of the Parliamentary Privileges Act to give improper protection to persons against the proper jurisdiction of the courts. Thus, the Committee agrees with the President's initial advice to the Senate, when giving the matter before the Committee precedence, that it is not necessary to make a definitive finding as to the scope of privilege, even though it has in the present case been prepared to make a finding of contempt on a limited interpretation of the scope of subsection 16(2) of the Parliamentary Privileges Act. It makes the point that it was prepared to make the same finding without making such a determination.

2.47 The Committee does not address the question as to the extent to which protection should be extended to consultations between constituents and senators, and to information held by senators, in the performance of their duties as senators. Initially, the Committee contemplated a recommendation that a form of legislative protection should be extended to the integrity of senator' files and information stored electronically. While the question as to the scope of subsection 16(2) is of vital interest to all members of parliament and indeed is a matter of public importance, and the Committee considers that many of Senator O'Chee's observations, particularly in his opening statement at the hearing of 16 April, require resolution by the Senate, the Committee does not regard it as appropriate to bring forward a recommendation of this kind in the context of this case.

2.48 This is particularly the case because questions as to the scope of subsection 16(2) of the Parliamentary Privileges Act 1987 are currently before both the Queensland Supreme Court and the High Court of Australia -- the first time that the extent of this element of privilege has been considered by the courts. The Committee's view accords with the insistence by the Queensland Law Society and the Law Council of Australia on the need to ensure minimal interference with due legal process, and the Committee's own understanding that the interpretation of the law is properly left to the courts. This conclusion has added weight, since it became clear, during the course of the hearing, that the issue was tangential to the terms of reference of the Committee, in that it derived from the defamation action against Senator O'Chee which was generally accepted as falling outside the terms of reference given to the Committee by the Senate on 23 August 1995. 2.49 Following the outcome of the two court cases, the Committee undertakes to seek from the Senate a general reference to establish whether it should make any recommendations as to any further legislative initiatives which may be required to clarify the scope of parliamentary privilege.

Robert Ray

Chairman

ENDNOTES

[1] Submissions and Documents, pp. 307-8.

[2] Submissions and Documents, pp. 300-1.

[3] Submissions and Documents, pp. 303-5.

[4] Submissions and Documents, p. 297.

[5] Submissions and Documents, p. 104A-105.

[6] Senate Committee of Privileges, Possible interference with witnesses in consequence of their giving evidence before Senate Select Committee on Administration of Aboriginal Affairs, (18th report), 1989, Committee

Documents, Volume 3.

[7] Submissions and Documents, pp. 291-3.

[8] Submissions and Documents, p. 4.

[9] Evidence, p. P59.

[10] Evidence, p. P60.

[11] Submissions and Documents, pp. 269-272.

[12] Submissions and Documents, pp. 264-5.

[13] Submissions and Documents, p. 72.

[14] Submissions and Documents, pp. 78-81.

[15] Submissions and Documents, p. 88.

[16] Evidence, p. P94.

[17] Evidence, p. P98.

[18] Evidence, pp. P112-3.

[19] Submissions and Documents, pp. 260-2.

[20] Submissions and Documents, pp. 1-2, 16.

[21] Submissions and Documents, p. 85.

[22] Evidence, p. P27.

[23] Submissions and Documents, p. 51.

[24] Submissions and Documents, p. 171.

[25] Evidence, p. P95.

[26] Evidence, p. P116.

[27] Submissions and Documents, p. 22.

[28] Submissions and Documents, p. 25.