Key issues and committee view
Introduction
2.1
Two key issues were raised in written submissions. The Inspector General
of Intelligence and Security (IGIS) expressed concern that by imposing a mandatory
obligation on the IGIS to review a decision of the executive, the proposed bill
jeopardised the independence of the IGIS.[1]
2.2
The Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet (PM&C) and the
Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade (DFAT) each made the point that the
government is currently considering its response to the 2017 Independent
Intelligence Review (IIR), and until that process had been completed it was
premature for the executive to comment on the bill.[2]
2.3
A further key issue raised during the committee hearing was the issue of
the scrutiny of executive policy decisions in light of the current legislative
prohibition on the PJCIS to review intelligence and security operations. The
discussion also canvassed the unique role of the IGIS in the oversight of
intelligence and security agencies.
The role of the Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security
2.4
The Hon. Margaret Stone, IGIS advised that her position is an
independent statutory office established under the Inspector-General of
Intelligence and Security Act 1986 and located within the Attorney-General's
portfolio. The IGIS is tasked to review the activities of intelligence
and security agencies, and provide advice to the government. The IGIS advised
that, as a statutory officer, the IGIS is not subject to any direction from any
Minister on how she should carry out her responsibilities.[3]
2.5
The IGIS contended that the mandatory review function proposed by the
bill would effectively confer an arbitral function on the IGIS to determine
whether a Parliamentary committee may exercise its inquiry function in
circumstances where the government opposes the conduct of the inquiry through
the issuing of a Ministerial certificate.[4]
2.6
At the hearing, the IGIS, the Hon. Margaret Stone, explained that under
the Constitution there are three arms of government—the parliament, the
judiciary and the executive. Whereas the judiciary derived its independence
from the Constitution, Ms Stone advised that her office is a part of the
executive.[5]
As such, Ms Stone emphasised that for her office to be the arbiter between the
executive and the parliament would place her office in 'an invidious position',
as the most important aspect of her office is its independence:
...The actual independence is very important there, but even
more so, I think, is the perception of independence. If we were to arbitrate
between a minister and a parliamentary committee it would be, 'Heads I win,
tails I lose,' that we would be seen to be partisan. What we do would
inevitably be able to be described as partisan and that would be the death
knell for our independence.[6]
2.7
Ms Stone observed that capacity for her office to carry out its role derives
from its independence:
We have to target what we do very carefully. We
create a culture of compliance. One of the ways we get the intelligence
agencies to trust us—so they can tell us about breaches, get anticipatory
briefings with us and tell us what they're planning to do—is because they
recognise our independence.[7]
2.8
The committee sought to address what may be perceived as an absence of
an avenue of scrutiny of a government's policy decision on operational matters
for which the PJCIS does not have a statutory right of review. Two alternative
approaches were suggested to the IGIS. The first was that, rather than being
the arbiter between the executive and the parliament, the IGIS could provide
advice only on questions of fact, for example, whether there was a security
operation on foot. The second was that the IGIS become an independent statutory
officer akin to the Auditor-General.[8]
2.9
The IGIS, Ms Stone, agreed that for the IGIS to provide advice only
would be very different to being an arbiter, however Ms Stone stated that both
the suggested approach would change the whole status of her office. With
respect to the provision on advice on specific questions of fact, Ms Stone said
that for the advice to have any credibility, it would have to include
information that would be difficult to disclose:
One of the problems is that as soon as you start going into
that area you get into information that may well by itself compromise national
security, or whatever—not all the intelligence agencies' operations are
security based, but most of them are. But you would get into an area such that
by merely confirming that an operation is in existence you'd give credence to
one of the factors you were trying to decide.[9]
2.10
As to the related suggestion that the role of the IGIS could be revamped
to be more akin to that of the Auditor-General, Ms Stone stated that this was a
matter for government policy, but noted:
...And I guess my view on that would really depend on what the
provisions of a proposed bill were and the extent to which I think they might
compromise the activities of my office—mainly its independence but also its own
operational effectiveness.[10]
2.11
Ms Stone drew the committee's attention to other scrutiny mechanisms
open to the PJCIS. She advised that her office regularly offered to brief the PJCIS.
Ms Stone also noted that there is nothing in the IGIS empowering
legislation that would prohibit the PJCIS from requesting, but not directing,
the IGIS to undertake an inquiry. Ms Stone stressed that only the Prime
Minister can 'direct' the IGIS to undertake an inquiry, but the Prime Minister
cannot impinge on her office's independence:
Only the Prime Minister can direct my office to do an
inquiry. That's been in the legislation for some time, and I have no difficulty
with that. I think it's been exercised only three times. And 'request'—even when
the Prime Minister directs, he or she is not entitled to say how we go about
it, what priority we give it, what resources.[11]
2.12
Ms Stone confirmed to the committee that the IIR had formally
recommended that:
- The IGIS be required to brief the PJCIS at regular intervals on
investigations; and,
- The Intelligence and Security Act be amended to enable the PJCIS
to request the IGIS to conduct an inquiry and provide a report to the PJCIS,
the Prime Minister and responsible Minister.[12]
Parliamentary oversight of security and intelligence operations
2.13
PM&C's submission to the inquiry focussed on the perspectives
provided by the IIR on intelligence and security oversight. PM&C noted that
the IIR had given considerable consideration to whether the role of the PJCIS
should be expanded to directly oversee intelligence operations, but had
ultimately declined to recommend this.[13]
2.14
At the hearing officials of PM&C advised the committee that their
consideration of the bill was in the context of working within government
policy. Ms Caroline Millar, Deputy Secretary, National Security and
International Policy, PM&C commented:
...the government is still considering the integrity and
oversight recommendations of the Independent Intelligence Review. While
those issues are still before government, we're really not in a position to
comment [on the bill].[14]
2.15
Ms Kylie Bryant, First Assistant Secretary, National Security Division,
PM&C observed that the PJCIS currently has an extensive role in the
oversight of intelligence and security agencies which operates within the
overall institutional and legislative intelligence and security oversight
framework.[15]
2.16
Mr Robert McKinnon, Assistant Secretary, National Security Strategy,
Cyber and Intelligence Branch, DFAT, advised the committee that accountability
for intelligence and security policy rests with the responsible Minister—and
that ultimately the issue of the appropriateness of a policy is a matter for the
executive and its broad accountability to parliament. Mr McKinnon advised:
There's no specific individual or function that would play
into providing some sort of independent oversight of that particular
relationship.[16]
2.17
However, Mr McKinnon placed the role of Ministerial responsibility for
intelligence and security policy into its broader context:
That process [of ministerial responsibility] is also dealt
with, in a broad policy sense, through the architecture that's built up around
government national security decision-making—the National Security Committee of
Cabinet, in particular, and its supporting instruments, the Secretaries
Committee on National Security. Those processes are very well established to
deal with overall policy determinations about the risks associated with various
intelligence activities but not in a way that, in a sense, cuts across the
traditional Westminster types of responsibilities and accountabilities that are
vested in ministers.[17]
2.18
Mr McKinnon explained that the structure of Australia's intelligence and
security arrangements is unique, being based on a legal structure
authorisation:
So the legality of the types of activities that are
undertaken by intelligence agencies, which are naturally difficult to
accommodate in a democracy, are only lawful if they are authorised either by
the legislation or by the minister acting under that legislation. To have an
arrangement to ensure the compliance and propriety of that process, we've
obviously got the IGIS function which, for all intents and purposes, is a
standing royal commission. That's an incredibly powerful institution, in a
sense, acting on behalf of the parliament and the public in terms of providing
that very intrusive oversight of these processes to ensure compliance. So that
in itself, I think, is the heart of the system. The challenge, of course, has
always been what role parliament should play through the PJCIS...in this process.
Clearly that's the issue that this bill addresses, but it's also the issue that
each intelligence review since the establishment of our current architecture
has addressed and seen some evolution in.[18]
Committee view
2.19
The committee noted that the IGIS has formidable powers equivalent to a
standing royal commission to ensure the lawful conduct of intelligence and
security agencies. The committee further noted the accountability of the
executive to the Parliament through the institutions of ministerial
responsibility and the separation of powers in the Westminster tradition.
2.20
Finally the committee notes the ongoing consideration by the executive
of the 2017 Independent Intelligence Review, and the related comprehensive review
of all legislation governing Australia's intelligence and security
architecture. The committee considers these processes should be allowed to be
completed, and on that basis considers the proposed bill to be premature, and
should not be passed.
Recommendation 1
2.21
The committee recommends that the Senate does not pass the bill.
Senator
James Paterson
Chair
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