| Submission No. 3JOAN COXSEDGE 8 LEICESTER STREET NORTH BALWYN VICTORIA 
        3104 AUSTRALIA TEL: (03) 9857 9249 FAX: (03) 9857 6598 Grant HarrisonCommittee Secretary
 Parliament of Australia
 Parliamentary Joint Committee on the
 Australian Security Intelligence Organisation
 
 21 April 1999
 A FEW GENERAL COMMENTS I seriously criticise the amount of time given to respond to the ASIO 
        Amendment Bill. It is grossly inadequate and reinforces the view that 
        the government is treating community consultation as a joke. Studying the proposed changes, I am forced to ask why does ASIO need 
        these extra powers at this particular time, seeing as no evidence is given 
        indicating that their absence has created a problem for the organisation 
        in the past or would do so in the future? A number of items relate to the Olympic Games. Is that the raison detre? 
        If so, what happens when the Olympic Games are over? Is there a sunset 
        clause to terminate the extra powers? There appears to be no absolute limitations placed on ASIOs quest for 
        these new powers because it appears that every proviso can be over-ridden. In his Second Reading speech, Attorney-General Williams mentioned that 
        new computer access provisions will enable ASIO to gain access to through 
        other means. What did he have in mind? And for ASIO to do certain things 
        which may be necessary, a rather chilling phrase which could mean absolutely 
        anything. He then talks about a strict limitation so that ASIO will not run amok, 
        presumably. How does he intend to ensure a strict limitation when, due 
        to the inherent secrecy of its work, ASIO can virtually do what it likes? 
        In the past it has routinely breached its charter. Is he seriously suggesting 
        that it wont in the future? Secrecy is at the very core of the problem 
        when discussing limitations, controls and accountability.   Joan Coxsedge 8 Leicester Street North Balwyn 3104   SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FROM THE EXPLANATORY MEMORANDUM Page 3, Item 4. permits ASIO to collect foreign intelligence. 
        How does that square with ASIS? Are they working in tandem or competing 
        with each other? Item 5. Permits ASIO to recover part or all of its costs. Does 
        that infer that some of ASIOs work is being privatised? In the same clause, it mentions other persons at their request. Who 
        did they have in mind? How do we know that ASIO is not acting to disadvantage 
        certain groups and individuals? In the past it was shown that information 
        was selectively handed out and could be very destructive, being based 
        on hearsay, lies and half-truths. If money enters the equation, then surely 
        ASIO is moving into a completely new arena. Page 4, Item 11, subsection 24(1) How will you ensure that 
        recovering listening devices will not be used to intimidate? Or is that 
        the general idea? Page 5 Item 12, subsection 25(5) Access to computers. How 
        will you ensure that access to data in computers is limited to the particular 
        event and will not be used in a wider fishing expedition? Appears to 
        be relevant is mentioned in relation to examining and copying data. Who 
        decides? How will you know until you download all the material? Subsection 25(10) The time limit is 28 days to give greater flexibility 
        to ASIO. How will this substantially assist in the collection of intelligence 
        unless the operative is going on a fishing expedition? (contd on page 6) to add, delete or alter data and tamper with a 
        computer. A very disturbing clause which permits possible interference 
        in someones computer, rather like a virus. Data is data. Altering it 
        can only have a mischievous purpose. Why does ASIO want this particular 
        power? Should not be allowed. Page 6 Item 22 The right to enter premises to remove surveillance. 
        The effect of such a clause would seem to be intimidatory. It only relates 
        to picking up an item in situ in an open manner but not when installing 
        the item. No time limit means the item could stay put forever or be recovered 
        when it suits ASIO. Page 7 Item 24 How is it proposed to protect articles in 
        transit from inspections by unauthorised people? How would this be carried 
        out in practice? Page 8 Item 27 Issuing warrants to a specified computer 
        or thing. What the hell is a thing? Page 8 Item 29 Many clauses extend the period of a search 
        warrant to 28 days. How does ASIO propose to keep track of all these extended 
        search warrants? Page 9 Item 33 This clause appears to wander into territory 
        normally inhabited by ASIS. As mentioned previously, how will this work 
        out? Especially in light of inter-agency rivalries. Page 9 Item 34 Allows the ASIO Director-General to broaden 
        the range of warrants in an emergency and tell his minister after the 
        event! I wondered what the minister would be told to explain the need 
        for such a circumstance. And if he/she agrees there was no such emergency, 
        what then? Page 10 Item 37 This item and many others relate to the 
        Olympic Games, which will conclude at the end of next year. As mentioned 
        previously, is there a sunset clause on each of the items? If not, why 
        not? Page 10 Item 39 subsection 38(1) permits ASIO to communicate 
        security assessments... in certain circumstances. Too vague. What are 
        these circumstances? Would the provisions of adverse review rights notification 
        also apply to a third party who receives such information? Page 16 Items 3EA All clauses relating to financial transactions 
        to follow the money trail appear to overlap the functions of the National 
        Crime Authority and the Federal Police etc, so why is ASIO seeking these 
        powers and why from the Taxation Office rather than via the other law 
        enforcement bodies? Is the push coming from the United States? I read that the CIA and National 
        Security Agency, for example, are emphasising economic espionage and stressing 
        co-operation with law enforcement agencies on issues such as drug trafficking 
        and money-laundering. A few years ago, the US Department of Defence and 
        Department of Justice signed a memorandum of understanding for Operations 
        Other Than War and Law Enforcement to facilitate joint development and 
        technology.   I dont have any illusions about the dangerous anti-democratic proposals 
        contained in the bill, adding to the ones already in existence. The reality 
        is, as anyone with half a brain knows, that an organisation like ASIO 
        can do what it likes, when it likes, how it likes and against whom it 
        likes, especially with an overly-compliant government. This is actually 
        spelled out in Section 8 (4&5) of the 1979 ASIO Act, which states 
        that the Minister cannot override the authority of the Director-General. 
        So much for parliamentary scrutiny and control. I have a question. If committee members inadvertently came across information 
        relating to security they believed would be in the peoples national 
        interest to know about, but that ASIO was determined to suppress, what 
        would they do? I wont hold my breath waiting for an answer.A copy of this submission is also available from the  
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