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No. 153

Thursday, 7 November 2024

- 9:00:10 AM

1The House met, at 9 am, pursuant to adjournment. The Speaker (the Honourable M. Dick) took the Chair, made an acknowledgement of country and read Prayers.

- 9:01:13 AM

2Free TAFE Bill 2024

Mr Giles (Minister for Skills and Training), pursuant to notice, presented a Bill for an Act relating to financial assistance to the States, the Australian Capital Territory and the Northern Territory in connection with the provision of Free TAFE and vocational education and training places, and for related purposes.

Document

Mr Giles presented an explanatory memorandum to the bill.

Bill read a first time.

- 9:01:48 AM

Mr Giles moved—That the bill be now read a second time.

- 9:10:51 AM

Debate adjourned (Mr Taylor), and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for the next sitting.

- 9:11:16 AM

3Customs Amendment (ASEAN-Australia-New Zealand Free Trade Area Second Protocol Implementation and Other Measures) Bill 2024

Mr Hill (Assistant Minister for Citizenship and Multicultural Affairs), pursuant to notice, presented a Bill for an Act to amend the Customs Act 1901, and for related purposes.

Document

Mr Hill presented an explanatory memorandum to the bill.

Bill read a first time.

- 9:12:04 AM

Mr Hill moved—That the bill be now read a second time.

- 9:18:11 AM

Debate adjourned (Mr Taylor), and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for the next sitting.

- 9:18:35 AM

4Customs Tariff Amendment (Incorporation of Proposals and Other Measures) Bill 2024

Mr Hill (Assistant Minister for Citizenship and Multicultural Affairs) presented a Bill for an Act to amend the Customs Tariff Act 1995, and for related purposes.

Document

Mr Hill presented an explanatory memorandum to the bill.

Bill read a first time.

- 9:18:56 AM

Mr Hill moved—That the bill be now read a second time.

- 9:21:58 AM

Debate adjourned (Mr Taylor), and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for the next sitting.

- 9:22:21 AM

5Scams Prevention Framework Bill 2024

Mr Jones (Assistant Treasurer), pursuant to notice, presented a Bill for an Act to provide a framework for preventing and responding to scams, and for related purposes.

Document

Mr Jones presented an explanatory memorandum to the bill.

Bill read a first time.

- 9:22:43 AM

Mr Jones moved—That the bill be now read a second time.

- 9:52:33 AM

Debate adjourned (Mr Taylor), and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for the next sitting.

- 9:52:56 AM

6Communications Legislation Amendment (Combatting Misinformation and Disinformation) Bill 2024

The order of the day having been read for the resumption of the debate on the question—That the bill be now read a second time—

Debate resumed.

Mr Pitt, 9:53:09 AM. Mr Tehan, 10:03:24 AM. Mr Hawke, 10:18:30 AM. Mr Boyce, 10:33:32 AM. Mr L O’Brien, 10:46:45 AM. Mr Gee, 11:00:55 AM. Mr Willcox, 11:07:09 AM. Mr Bandt, 11:18:47 AM. Point of order, Mr Joyce. 11:24:06 AM.

- 11:24:47 AM

Mr Bandt moved, as an amendment—That all words after “That” be omitted with a view to substituting the following words:
“whilst not declining to give the bill a second reading, the House:

(1)notes this bill is still before a Senate inquiry;

(2)notes the proposed legislation does not address the powerful, unchecked role that the Murdoch media empire plays in spreading misinformation and disinformation in our democracy; and

(3)calls on the government to tackle misinformation and disinformation spread by the Murdoch media”.

Debate ensued.

Ms Le, 11:33:55 AM. Ms Rowland, 11:38:44 AM.

- 11:40:47 AM

Question—That the amendment be agreed to—put.

- 11:41:04 AM

Division 485

The House divided (the Speaker, Mr Dick, in the Chair)—

AYES, 5

Mr Bandt*	Mr Chandler-Mather	Ms Watson-Brown	Mr Wilkie
Mr Bates*

NOES, 60

Dr Ananda-Rajah	Ms Doyle	Mr Lim	Dr M Ryan
Ms Belyea	Mr Dreyfus	Mr McCormack	Ms Scrymgour
Mr Bowen	Mrs Elliot	Ms Miller-Frost	Ms Sharkie
Mr Broadbent	Ms Fernando	Mr R Mitchell	Ms Sitou
Mr Burnell	Dr Freelander	Mr Neumann	Mr Smith*
Ms Burney	Dr Garland	Mr O’Connor	Ms Spender
Mr Burns	Mr Georganas	Ms Payne	Ms Stanley*
Mr Butler	Mr Giles	Mr Perrett	Ms Steggall
Ms Chaney	Mr Gorman	Mrs Phillips	Ms Swanson
Dr Charlton	Dr Haines	Mr Rae	Ms Templeman
Ms Chesters	Mr Joyce	Dr Reid	Mr Thompson
Ms Coker	Mr Katter	Mr Repacholi	Ms Tink
Mr Conaghan	Ms Lawrence	Ms Roberts	Ms Vamvakinou
Mr Conroy	Mr Laxale	Ms Rowland	Mr Watts
Ms Daniel	Ms Le	Ms J Ryan	Mr Zappia

* Tellers

And so it was negatived.

- 11:48:11 AM

Question—That the bill be now read a second time—put.

- 11:48:20 AM

Division 486

The House divided (the Speaker, Mr Dick, in the Chair)—

AYES, 78

Mr Albanese	Ms Daniel	Mr Lim	Ms Rowland
Dr Aly	Ms Doyle	Ms McBain	Ms J Ryan
Dr Ananda-Rajah	Mr Dreyfus	Ms McBride	Dr M Ryan
Ms Belyea	Mrs Elliot	Ms Miller-Frost	Dr Scamps
Mr Bowen	Ms Fernando	Mr B Mitchell	Ms Scrymgour
Mr Burke	Dr Freelander	Mr R Mitchell	Mr Shorten
Mr Burnell	Dr Garland	Dr Mulino	Ms Sitou
Ms Burney	Mr Georganas	Mr Neumann	Mr Smith*
Mr Burns	Mr Giles	Mr O’Connor	Ms Stanley*
Mr Butler	Mr Gorman	Ms O’Neil	Ms Steggall
Ms Byrnes	Mr Gosling	Ms Payne	Ms Swanson
Dr Chalmers	Mr Hill	Mr Perrett	Ms Templeman
Ms Chaney	Mr Jones	Mrs Phillips	Mr Thistlethwaite
Dr Charlton	Ms Kearney	Ms Plibersek	Ms Tink
Ms Chesters	Mr Keogh	Mr Rae	Ms Vamvakinou
Mr Clare	Ms C King	Dr Reid	Mr Watts
Ms Claydon	Ms M. M. H. King	Mr Repacholi	Ms Wells
Ms Coker	Ms Lawrence	Ms Rishworth	Mr J Wilson
Ms Collins	Mr Laxale	Ms Roberts	Mr Zappia
Mr Conroy	Dr Leigh

NOES, 57

Mrs Andrews	Dr Haines	Mrs McIntosh	Mr Taylor
Mrs Archer	Mr Hamilton	Mrs Marino	Mr Tehan
Ms Bell	Mr Hawke	Mr Ted O’Brien	Mr Thompson
Mr Birrell	Mr Hogan	Mr L O’Brien	Mr van Manen
Mr Boyce	Mr Howarth	Mr Pasin	Mr Vasta
Mr Broadbent	Mr Joyce	Mr Pearce	Mr Violi
Mr Buchholz	Mr Katter	Mr Pike	Mr Wallace
Mr Caldwell	Mr Kennedy	Mr Pitt	Ms Ware
Mr Chester	Ms Landry	Ms Price	Dr Webster
Mr Conaghan	Ms Le	Mr Ramsey*	Mr Wilkie
Mr Coulton*	Mr Leeser	Ms Sharkie	Mr Willcox
Mr Entsch	Ms Ley	Ms Spender	Mr R Wilson
Mr Fletcher	Mr Littleproud	Mr Stevens	Mr Wolahan
Mr Gee	Mr McCormack	Mr Sukkar	Mr Young
Mr Goodenough

* Tellers

And so it was resolved in the affirmative.

- 11:55:06 AM

—bill read a second time.

- 11:55:20 AM

Consideration in detail

Bill, by leave, taken as a whole.

- 11:55:29 AM

Document

Ms Rowland (Minister for Communications) presented a supplementary explanatory memorandum to the bill.

- 11:55:39 AM

Ms Rowland, by leave, moved Government amendments (1) to (23) together.

Debate ensued.

Ms Tink, 11:59:07 AM. Point of order, Mr Fletcher. 12:01:04 PM. Ms Tink, 12:01:45 PM. Ms Daniel, 12:03:36 PM.

- 12:06:26 PM

Question—That the amendments be agreed to—put.

- 12:06:38 PM

Division 487

The House divided (the Speaker, Mr Dick, in the Chair)—

AYES, 86

Mr Albanese	Mr Conroy	Dr Leigh	Ms J Ryan
Dr Aly	Ms Daniel	Mr Lim	Dr M Ryan
Dr Ananda-Rajah	Ms Doyle	Ms McBain	Dr Scamps
Mr Bandt	Mr Dreyfus	Ms McBride	Ms Scrymgour
Mr Bates	Mrs Elliot	Ms Miller-Frost	Mr Shorten
Ms Belyea	Ms Fernando	Mr B Mitchell	Ms Sitou
Mr Bowen	Dr Freelander	Mr R Mitchell	Mr Smith*
Mr Burke	Dr Garland	Dr Mulino	Ms Spender
Mr Burnell	Mr Georganas	Mr Neumann	Ms Stanley*
Ms Burney	Mr Giles	Mr O’Connor	Ms Steggall
Mr Burns	Mr Gorman	Ms O’Neil	Ms Swanson
Mr Butler	Mr Gosling	Ms Payne	Ms Templeman
Ms Byrnes	Dr Haines	Mr Perrett	Mr Thistlethwaite
Dr Chalmers	Mr Hill	Mrs Phillips	Ms Tink
Mr Chandler-Mather	Mr Husic	Ms Plibersek	Ms Vamvakinou
Ms Chaney	Mr Jones	Mr Rae	Ms Watson-Brown
Dr Charlton	Ms Kearney	Dr Reid	Mr Watts
Ms Chesters	Mr Keogh	Mr Repacholi	Ms Wells
Mr Clare	Ms C King	Ms Rishworth	Mr Wilkie
Ms Claydon	Ms M. M. H. King	Ms Roberts	Mr J Wilson
Ms Coker	Ms Lawrence	Ms Rowland	Mr Zappia
Ms Collins	Mr Laxale

NOES, 53

Mrs Andrews	Mr Goodenough	Mrs McIntosh	Mr Taylor
Mrs Archer	Mr Hamilton	Mrs Marino	Mr Tehan
Ms Bell	Mr Hawke	Mr Ted O’Brien	Mr Thompson
Mr Birrell	Mr Hogan	Mr L O’Brien	Mr van Manen
Mr Boyce	Mr Howarth	Mr Pasin	Mr Vasta
Mr Broadbent	Mr Joyce	Mr Pearce	Mr Violi
Mr Buchholz	Mr Katter	Mr Pike	Mr Wallace
Mr Caldwell	Mr Kennedy	Mr Pitt	Ms Ware
Mr Chester	Ms Landry	Ms Price	Dr Webster
Mr Conaghan	Mr Leeser	Mr Ramsey*	Mr Willcox
Mr Coulton*	Ms Ley	Ms Sharkie	Mr R Wilson
Mr Entsch	Mr Littleproud	Mr Stevens	Mr Wolahan
Mr Fletcher	Mr McCormack	Mr Sukkar	Mr Young
Mr Gee

* Tellers

And so it was resolved in the affirmative.

- 12:12:27 PM

Question—That the bill, as amended, be agreed to—put.

- 12:12:36 PM

Division 488

The House divided (the Speaker, Mr Dick, in the Chair)—

AYES, 79

Mr Albanese	Ms Daniel	Dr Leigh	Ms Rowland
Dr Aly	Ms Doyle	Mr Lim	Ms J Ryan
Dr Ananda-Rajah	Mr Dreyfus	Ms McBain	Dr M Ryan
Ms Belyea	Mrs Elliot	Ms McBride	Dr Scamps
Mr Bowen	Ms Fernando	Ms Miller-Frost	Ms Scrymgour
Mr Burke	Dr Freelander	Mr B Mitchell	Mr Shorten
Mr Burnell	Dr Garland	Mr R Mitchell	Ms Sitou
Ms Burney	Mr Georganas	Dr Mulino	Mr Smith*
Mr Burns	Mr Giles	Mr Neumann	Ms Stanley*
Mr Butler	Mr Gorman	Mr O’Connor	Ms Steggall
Ms Byrnes	Mr Gosling	Ms O’Neil	Ms Swanson
Dr Chalmers	Mr Hill	Ms Payne	Ms Templeman
Ms Chaney	Mr Husic	Mr Perrett	Mr Thistlethwaite
Dr Charlton	Mr Jones	Mrs Phillips	Ms Tink
Ms Chesters	Ms Kearney	Ms Plibersek	Ms Vamvakinou
Mr Clare	Mr Keogh	Mr Rae	Mr Watts
Ms Claydon	Ms C King	Dr Reid	Ms Wells
Ms Coker	Ms M. M. H. King	Mr Repacholi	Mr J Wilson
Ms Collins	Ms Lawrence	Ms Rishworth	Mr Zappia
Mr Conroy	Mr Laxale	Ms Roberts

NOES, 56

Mrs Andrews	Mr Goodenough	Mrs McIntosh	Mr Taylor
Mrs Archer	Dr Haines	Mrs Marino	Mr Tehan
Ms Bell	Mr Hamilton	Mr Ted O’Brien	Mr Thompson
Mr Birrell	Mr Hawke	Mr L O’Brien	Mr van Manen
Mr Boyce	Mr Hogan	Mr Pasin	Mr Vasta
Mr Broadbent	Mr Howarth	Mr Pearce	Mr Violi
Mr Buchholz	Mr Joyce	Mr Pike	Mr Wallace
Mr Caldwell	Mr Katter	Mr Pitt	Ms Ware
Mr Chester	Mr Kennedy	Ms Price	Dr Webster
Mr Conaghan	Ms Landry	Mr Ramsey*	Mr Wilkie
Mr Coulton*	Mr Leeser	Ms Sharkie	Mr Willcox
Mr Entsch	Ms Ley	Ms Spender	Mr R Wilson
Mr Fletcher	Mr Littleproud	Mr Stevens	Mr Wolahan
Mr Gee	Mr McCormack	Mr Sukkar	Mr Young

* Tellers

And so it was resolved in the affirmative.

- 12:16:04 PM

Bill, as amended, agreed to.

Consideration in detail concluded.

- 12:16:21 PM

On the motion of Ms Rowland, by leave, the bill was read a third time.

- 12:17:11 PM

7Better and Fairer Schools (Funding and Reform) Bill 2024—REPORT FROM FEDERATION CHAMBER

The Speaker reported that the Federation Chamber had been unable to complete its consideration of the bill and had returned the bill with an unresolved question (see item No. 5, Minutes of Proceedings of the Federation Chamber, 6 November 2024), and presented a certified copy of the bill together with a schedule of the unresolved question.

- 12:17:42 PM

Unresolved question—That the amendment be agreed to—

- 12:17:53 PM

Question—put.

- 12:18:05 PM

Division 489

The House divided (the Speaker, Mr Dick, in the Chair)—

AYES, 13

Mr Bandt	Ms Daniel	Dr M Ryan	Ms Tink
Mr Bates*	Dr Haines	Dr Scamps	Ms Watson-Brown*
Mr Chandler-Mather	Ms Le	Ms Steggall	Mr Wilkie
Ms Chaney

NOES, 41

Dr Ananda-Rajah	Ms Fernando	Ms Miller-Frost	Ms Scrymgour
Ms Belyea	Dr Freelander	Mr R Mitchell	Ms Sharkie
Mr Burke	Mr Georganas	Dr Mulino	Ms Sitou
Mr Burnell	Mr Giles	Mr Neumann	Mr Smith*
Ms Burney	Mr Gorman	Mr Perrett	Ms Stanley*
Dr Charlton	Mr Gosling	Mrs Phillips	Mr Sukkar
Ms Chesters	Mr Hill	Mr Repacholi	Ms Swanson
Mr Clare	Mr Laxale	Ms Roberts	Mr Watts
Ms Claydon	Mr Lim	Ms Rowland	Mr J Wilson
Mr Conaghan	Ms McBride	Ms J Ryan	Mr Zappia
Mrs Elliot

* Tellers

And so it was negatived.

- 12:23:01 PM

Question—That the bill be now read a second time—put and passed—bill read a second time.

- 12:23:10 PM

Message from the Governor-General

Message No. 211, 9 October 2024, from Her Excellency the Governor-General was announced recommending an appropriation for the purposes of the bill.

- 12:23:28 PM

Leave granted for third reading to be moved immediately.

On the motion of Mr Clare (Minister for Education), the bill was read a third time.

- 12:23:52 PM

8Nuclear Energy—Select Committee—MEMBERSHIP

The House was informed that the Chief Government Whip had nominated Dr Mulino to be a supplementary member of the Select Committee on Nuclear Energy.

Mr Burke (Leader of the House), by leave, moved—That Dr Mulino be appointed a supplementary member of the Select Committee on Nuclear Energy for the purpose of the committee’s inquiry into nuclear power generation in Australia.

- 12:24:29 PM

Question—put and passed.

- 12:24:40 PM

9Migration Amendment Bill 2024

Mr Burke (Minister for Immigration and Multicultural Affairs), pursuant to notice, presented a Bill for an Act to amend the Migration Act 1958, and for related purposes.

Document

Mr Burke presented an explanatory memorandum to the bill.

Bill read a first time.

- 12:25:10 PM

Mr Burke moved—That the bill be now read a second time.

- 12:32:17 PM

Debate adjourned (Mr Sukkar), and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for the next sitting.

- 12:32:36 PM

10Orders of the day returned to the House

Mr Burke (Leader of the House) declared the Aged Care Bill 2024 and the Aged Care Legislation Amendment Bill 2024 returned to the House for further consideration.

- 12:32:59 PM

Resumption of each debate made an order of the day for a later hour this day.

- 12:33:07 PM

11National Broadband Network Companies Amendment (Commitment to Public Ownership) Bill 2024

The order of the day having been read for the resumption of the debate on the question—That the bill be now read a second time—

Debate resumed.

Mr R Mitchell, 12:33:19 PM.

- 12:48:43 PM

Debate adjourned (Mr Giles—Minister for Skills and Training), and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for a later hour this day.

- 12:49:45 PM

12Aged Care Bill 2024

The order of the day having been read for the resumption of the debate on the question—That the bill be now read a second time—

- 12:50:02 PM

Question—put and passed—bill read a second time.

- 12:50:57 PM

Messages from the Governor-General

Message No. 212, 3 July 2024, from Her Excellency the Governor-General was announced recommending an appropriation for the purposes of the bill.

- 12:51:22 PM

Message No. 214, 6 November 2024, from Her Excellency the Governor-General was announced recommending an appropriation for the purpose of amendments to be made on motion moved by a Minister to the bill.

- 12:51:34 PM

Consideration in detail

Bill, by leave, taken as a whole.

- 12:51:37 PM

Ms Sharkie, by leave, moved amendments (1) and (2), on the sheet revised 4 November 2024, together.

Debate ensued.

Ms Wells, 12:55:16 PM.

- 12:56:33 PM

Amendments negatived.

- 12:57:04 PM

Ms Sharkie, by leave, moved amendments (3) and (4), on the sheet revised 4 November 2024, together.

Debate ensued.

Ms Wells, 12:59:15 PM.

- 1:00:38 PM

On the motion of Ms Sharkie, by leave, amendments (3) and (4), on the sheet revised 4 November 2024, were made together, after debate.

- 1:00:43 PM

Dr Scamps, by leave, moved amendments (1) and (2) together.

Debate ensued.

Ms Wells, 1:04:43 PM.

- 1:06:06 PM

Amendments negatived.

- 1:06:07 PM

Document

Ms Wells (Minister for Aged Care) presented a supplementary explanatory memorandum to the bill.

- 1:06:18 PM

Ms Wells, by leave, moved Government amendments (1) to (65) on sheet TH111 together.

Debate ensued.

Ms Sharkie, 1:07:51 PM.

- 1:12:48 PM

On the motion of Ms Wells, by leave, Government amendments (1) to (65) on sheet TH111 were made together, after debate.

- 1:13:33 PM

Question—That the bill, as amended, be agreed to—

- 1:13:33 PM

Debate ensued.

Ms Sharkie, 1:13:38 PM.

- 1:18:03 PM

Ms Wells moved the Government amendment on sheet UD107.

Debate ensued.

Mr Bandt, 1:18:26 PM.

- 1:19:32 PM

Question—That the amendment be agreed to—put.

- 1:19:59 PM

Division 490

The House divided (the Speaker, Mr Dick, in the Chair)—

AYES, 51

Dr Ananda-Rajah	Dr Garland	Ms Payne	Ms Spender
Ms Belyea	Mr Gee	Mr Perrett	Ms Stanley*
Mr Burnell	Mr Georganas	Mrs Phillips	Ms Steggall
Ms Burney	Mr Goodenough	Mr Rae	Ms Swanson
Mr Burns	Mr Gorman	Dr Reid	Ms Templeman
Ms Chaney	Mr Hill	Mr Repacholi	Ms Thwaites
Mr Chester	Ms Lawrence	Ms Roberts	Ms Vamvakinou
Ms Chesters	Mr Laxale	Ms J Ryan	Mr Watts
Ms Claydon	Ms Le	Dr Scamps	Mr Wilkie
Ms Coker	Mr Lim	Ms Scrymgour	Mr J Wilson
Ms Doyle	Ms Miller-Frost	Ms Sharkie	Mr Wolahan
Mrs Elliot	Dr Mulino	Ms Sitou	Mr Zappia
Ms Fernando	Mr Neumann	Mr Smith*

NOES, 8

Mr Bandt*	Mr Chandler-Mather	Dr Haines	Ms Tink
Mr Bates*	Ms Daniel	Dr M Ryan	Ms Watson-Brown

* Tellers

And so it was resolved in the affirmative.

- 1:26:52 PM

Bill, as amended, agreed to.

Consideration in detail concluded.

- 1:27:13 PM

On the motion of Ms Wells, by leave, the bill was read a third time.

- 1:27:39 PM

13Aged Care Legislation Amendment Bill 2024

The order of the day having been read for the resumption of the debate on the question—That the bill be now read a second time—And on the amendment moved thereto by Ms Ley, viz.—That all words after “That” be omitted with a view to substituting the following words:

“the House notes the Government must ensure that:

(1)the reporting burden imposed on providers does not outweigh the necessary information being collected; and

(2)all aged care providers are focused on delivering high quality care for our older Australians”—

- 1:28:06 PM

Question—That the amendment be agreed to—put.

- 1:28:16 PM

Division 491

The House divided (the Speaker, Mr Dick, in the Chair)—

AYES, 52

Mrs Andrews	Mr Goodenough	Mr L O’Brien	Mr Sukkar
Mrs Archer	Dr Haines	Mr Pasin	Mr Taylor
Ms Bell	Mr Hogan	Mr Pearce	Mr Tehan
Mr Birrell	Mr Howarth	Mr Pike	Mr Thompson
Mr Boyce	Mr Joyce	Mr Pitt	Ms Tink
Mr Caldwell	Mr Kennedy	Ms Price	Mr van Manen
Ms Chaney	Ms Landry	Mr Ramsey*	Mr Vasta
Mr Chester	Ms Le	Dr M Ryan	Mr Violi
Mr Coleman	Ms Ley	Dr Scamps	Mr Wallace
Mr Conaghan	Mr Littleproud	Ms Sharkie	Mr Wilkie
Mr Coulton*	Mrs McIntosh	Ms Spender	Mr Willcox
Ms Daniel	Mrs Marino	Ms Steggall	Mr Wolahan
Mr Entsch	Mr Ted O’Brien	Mr Stevens	Mr Young

NOES, 72

Mr Albanese	Ms Doyle	Dr Leigh	Ms Rishworth
Dr Aly	Mr Dreyfus	Mr Lim	Ms Roberts
Dr Ananda-Rajah	Mrs Elliot	Ms McBain	Ms Rowland
Ms Belyea	Ms Fernando	Ms McBride	Ms J Ryan
Mr Burke	Dr Freelander	Ms Miller-Frost	Ms Scrymgour
Mr Burnell	Dr Garland	Mr B Mitchell	Mr Shorten
Ms Burney	Mr Georganas	Mr R Mitchell	Ms Sitou
Mr Burns	Mr Giles	Dr Mulino	Mr Smith*
Mr Butler	Mr Gorman	Mr Neumann	Ms Stanley*
Ms Byrnes	Mr Gosling	Mr O’Connor	Ms Swanson
Dr Chalmers	Mr Husic	Ms O’Neil	Ms Templeman
Dr Charlton	Mr Jones	Ms Payne	Mr Thistlethwaite
Ms Chesters	Ms Kearney	Mr Perrett	Ms Thwaites
Mr Clare	Mr Keogh	Mrs Phillips	Ms Vamvakinou
Ms Claydon	Ms C King	Ms Plibersek	Mr Watts
Ms Coker	Ms M. M. H. King	Mr Rae	Ms Wells
Ms Collins	Ms Lawrence	Dr Reid	Mr J Wilson
Mr Conroy	Mr Laxale	Mr Repacholi	Mr Zappia

* Tellers

And so it was negatived.

- 1:36:35 PM

Suspension of standing order 43 for this sitting

Mr Burke (Leader of the House), by leave, moved—That standing order 43 be suspended until the conclusion of the bill.

- 1:36:35 PM

Question—put and passed.

- 1:37:01 PM

Question—That the bill be now read a second time—put and passed—bill read a second time.

- 1:37:28 PM

Message from the Governor-General

Message No. 210, 3 July 2024, from Her Excellency the Governor-General was announced recommending an appropriation for the purposes of the bill.

- 1:37:54 PM

Leave granted for third reading to be moved immediately.

On the motion of Ms Wells (Minister for Aged Care), the bill was read a third time.

- 1:38:13 PM

14MEMBERS’ STATEMENTS

Members’ statements were made.

Mr L O’Brien, 1:38:19 PM. Ms Vamvakinou, 1:39:40 PM. Mr Pearce, 1:41:04 PM. Ms Belyea, 1:42:29 PM. Ms Chaney, 1:43:51 PM. Ms Fernando, 1:45:18 PM. Dr Scamps, 1:46:36 PM. Ms Byrnes, 1:48:12 PM. Mr Pike, 1:49:49 PM. Ms Coker, 1:51:20 PM. Mr Pitt, 1:52:52 PM. Dr Garland, 1:54:28 PM. Mr Coleman, 1:55:32 PM. Mr Burnell, 1:57:06 PM. Mr Ted O’Brien, 1:58:34 PM.

- 2:00:16 PM

Mr Albanese (Prime Minister), by indulgence, made a statement on newly elected President Trump.

- 2:02:09 PM

Mr Dutton, by indulgence, made a statement on the same matter.

- 2:03:57 PM

Mr Albanese, notified the House of ministerial arrangements.

- 2:04:19 PM

15QUESTIONS

- 2:04:22 PM

(1)Mr Coleman to Ms Rowland (Minister for Communications)

Point of order, Mr Coleman. 2:06:38 PM. Ms Rowland, 2:07:16 PM.

- 2:08:48 PM

(2)Ms Scrymgour to Mr Albanese (Prime Minister)

- 2:12:10 PM

(3)Ms Ley to Mr Giles (Minister for Skills and Training)

Point of order, Mr Burke. 2:12:36 PM. Ms Ley, 2:13:18 PM. Mr Giles, 2:13:46 PM. Point of order, Ms Ley. 2:15:24 PM. Mr Giles, 2:16:17 PM.

- 2:18:09 PM

(4)Ms Fernando to Ms Rowland (Minister for Communications)

- 2:21:41 PM

Distinguished visitor announced.

- 2:22:06 PM

(5)Ms Spender to Mr Jones (Assistant Treasurer)

Point of order, Ms Spender. 2:24:21 PM. Mr Jones, 2:24:52 PM.

- 2:26:47 PM

(6)Ms Stanley to Dr Chalmers (Treasurer)

Point of order, Mr Fletcher. 2:29:17 PM. Point of order, Mr Butler. 2:30:02 PM. Dr Chalmers, 2:30:40 PM.

- 2:32:12 PM

(7)Mr Tehan to Mr Burke (Minister for Immigration and Multicultural Affairs)

Point of order, Mr Tehan. 2:33:51 PM. Point of order, Mr Butler. 2:34:14 PM. Mr Burke, 2:34:54 PM.

- 2:36:50 PM

(8)Ms Byrnes to Mr Clare (Minister for Education)

- 2:40:17 PM

(9)Mr Conaghan to Mr Burke (Minister for Immigration and Multicultural Affairs)

- 2:41:50 PM

(10)Dr Freelander to Ms O’Neil (Minister for Housing)

- 2:44:49 PM

(11)Mr L O’Brien to Mr Burke (Minister for Immigration and Multicultural Affairs)

- 2:46:02 PM

(12)Mr Neumann to Ms C King (Minister for Infrastructure, Transport, Regional Development and Local Government)

- 2:49:18 PM

(13)Mr Bandt to Mr Albanese (Prime Minister)

- 2:51:27 PM

Member directed to leave

At 2.52 pm the Member for Farrer (Ms Ley) was directed, under standing order 94, to leave the Chamber for one hour for interjecting and she accordingly left the Chamber.

- 2:51:36 PM

Questions without notice continuing—

Mr Albanese, 2:51:48 PM.

- 2:53:05 PM

(14)Mr Georganas to Mr Shorten (Minister for the National Disability Insurance Scheme)

- 2:56:38 PM

(15)Ms Price to Mr Dreyfus (Attorney-General)

Point of order, Mr Tehan. 2:59:14 PM.

- 2:59:39 PM

Member directed to leave

At 3 pm the Member for Moreton (Mr Perrett) was directed, under standing order 94, to leave the Chamber for one hour for continuing to interject after a warning had been given by the Chair and he accordingly left the Chamber.

- 2:59:51 PM

Questions without notice continued.

Point of order, Mr Burke. 2:59:56 PM. Mr Dreyfus, 3:00:16 PM. Point of order, Mr Fletcher. 3:01:03 PM. Mr Dreyfus, 3:01:39 PM.

- 3:02:17 PM

(16)Mr B Mitchell to Mr Butler (Minister for Health and Aged Care)

- 3:05:37 PM

(17)Dr Scamps to Mr Conroy (Minister for Defence Industry and Capability Delivery)

- 3:09:12 PM

(18)Dr Garland to Mr Albanese (Prime Minister)

- 3:12:31 PM

16Independent Parliamentary Expenses Authority—STATEMENT BY SPEAKER—DOCUMENT

The Speaker made a statement relating to the exercise of the Independent Parliamentary Expenses Authority’s information-gathering powers where parliamentary privilege may apply and presented the following document:

- 3:14:34 PM

Memorandum of understanding between the President of the Senate, the Speaker of the House of Representatives and Independent Parliamentary Expenses Authority.

- 3:14:48 PM

17DOCUMENTS

The following documents were presented:

*Inspector-General of Water Compliance—Report for 2023-24.

*Repatriation Medical Authority—Report for 2023-24.

Sydney Airport Demand Management Act 1997—Quarterly report on movement cap for Sydney airport for the period 1 July to 30 September 2024.

Treaty—Text, together with national interest analysis—ATNIA 17 and Indo-Pacific Economic Framework for Prosperity Agreement Relating to a Clean Economy (Singapore, 6 June 2024).

*The documents were made Parliamentary Papers.

- 3:15:01 PM

18DISCUSSION OF MATTER OF PUBLIC IMPORTANCE—Alliances

The House was informed that Mr Fletcher (Manager of Opposition Business), had proposed that a definite matter of public importance be submitted to the House for discussion, namely, “The importance of Australia’s relationships with our key allies”.

- 3:15:12 PM

The proposed discussion having received the necessary support—

- 3:15:17 PM

Mr Fletcher addressed the House.

- 3:25:19 PM

Discussion ensued.

Mr Watts, 3:25:32 PM. Mr McCormack, 3:35:36 PM. Mr Gosling, 3:40:40 PM. Mr Stevens, 3:45:45 PM. Dr Charlton, 3:50:49 PM. Point of order, Mr Buchholz. 3:52:16 PM. Dr Charlton, 3:52:50 PM. Mr Pitt, 3:55:52 PM. Mr Smith, 4:00:54 PM. Mr Wolahan, 4:05:10 PM. Mr Georganas, 4:10:20 PM.

- 4:15:00 PM

Discussion concluded.

- 4:15:54 PM

19National Broadband Network Companies Amendment (Commitment to Public Ownership) Bill 2024

The order of the day having been read for the resumption of the debate on the question—That the bill be now read a second time—

Debate resumed.

Dr Webster, 4:15:57 PM.

- 4:24:29 PM

Mrs Elliot addressing the House—

- 4:30:06 PM

20ADJOURNMENT

It being 4.30 pm—The question was proposed—That the House do now adjourn.

Debate ensued.

Ms Sharkie, 4:30:14 PM. Ms Swanson, 4:34:56 PM. Mr Leeser, 4:40:02 PM. Ms Templeman, 4:45:06 PM. Mrs Marino, 4:50:13 PM. Ms Stanley, 4:55:20 PM.

- 4:59:55 PM

The House continuing to sit until 5 pm—The Speaker adjourned the House until 10 am on Monday, 18 November 2024.

- 5:00:44 PM

DOCUMENTS

The following documents were deemed to have been presented on 7 November 2024 (An explanatory statement has been presented with each instrument unless otherwise indicated by an asterisk):

Acts Interpretation Act 1901 and Greenhouse and Energy Minimum Standards Act 2012—Greenhouse and Energy Minimum Standards (Deemed Compliance) Declaration (No. 1) 2024 [F2024L01406].

Defence Act 1903—Defence Determination, Conditions of service Amendment Determination 2024 (No. 12) [F2024L01404].

Sydney Airport Curfew Act 1995—Dispensation Report—14/24.

Torres Strait Fisheries Act 1984—Torres Strait Fisheries Management Plan 2018—Torres Strait Fisheries (Quotas for Tropical Rock Lobster (Kaiar)) (Total Allowable Catch) Determination 2024 [F2024L01407].

- 5:00:46 PM

ATTENDANCE

All Members attended (at some time during the sitting) except Dr Gillespie, Mr Hastie, Mr Khalil, Mr Marles, Ms Mascarenhas, Ms McKenzie and Mr Wood.