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No. 118

Wednesday, 15 May 2024

- 9:00:17 AM

1The House met, at 9 am, pursuant to adjournment. The Speaker (the Honourable M. Dick) took the Chair, made an acknowledgement of country and read Prayers.

- 9:01:45 AM

2BILLS DECLARED REFERRED TO FEDERATION CHAMBER

Ms J Ryan (Chief Government Whip) declared the following bills referred to the Federation Chamber for further consideration at the adjournment of the debate on the motion for the second reading of each bill:

Digital ID Bill 2024; and

Digital ID (Transitional and Consequential Provisions) Bill 2023.

- 9:03:28 AM

3POSTPONEMENT OF BUSINESS

Ordered—That business intervening before order of the day No. 11, government business, be postponed until a later hour this day.

- 9:03:35 AM

4DOCUMENT

Ms Rowland (Minister for Communications) presented the following document:

Australian Postal Corporation and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 2024—Replacement explanatory memorandum.

- 9:03:40 AM

5MESSAGE FROM THE SENATE

Message No. 278, 14 May 2024, from the Senate was reported informing the House that Senator Hodgins-May had been appointed a participating member of the Joint Standing Committee on Implementation of the National Redress Scheme.

- 9:03:53 AM

6 Digital ID Bill 2024

The order of the day having been read for the second reading—

- 9:04:11 AM

Document

Mr Jones (Assistant Treasurer) presented a revised explanatory memorandum to the bill.

- 9:04:12 AM

Mr Jones moved—That the bill be now read a second time.

Mr Jones, 9:04:18 AM.

- 9:20:50 AM

Debate ensued.

Mr Fletcher, 9:20:57 AM.

- 9:45:01 AM

Debate adjourned (Ms Rowland—Minister for Communications), and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for a later hour this day.

- 9:45:22 AM

7 Digital ID (Transitional and Consequential Provisions) Bill 2023

The order of the day having been read for the second reading—

- 9:45:34 AM

Document

Mr Jones (Assistant Treasurer) presented an explanatory memorandum to the bill.

- 9:45:36 AM

Mr Jones moved—That the bill be now read a second time.

- 9:51:42 AM

Debate ensued.

Mr Fletcher, 9:51:45 AM.

- 9:52:24 AM

Debate adjourned (Ms Rowland—Minister for Communications), and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for a later hour this day.

- 9:52:38 AM

8 Parliamentary Business Resources Legislation Amendment (Review Implementation and Other Measures) Bill 2024

The order of the day having been read for the resumption of the debate on the question—That the bill be now read a second time—

Debate resumed.

Mr Howarth, 9:52:54 AM. Mr Gorman, 9:57:37 AM.

- 9:58:24 AM

Question—put and passed—bill read a second time.

- 9:59:06 AM

Message from the Governor-General

Message No. 166, 26 March 2024, from His Excellency the Governor-General was announced recommending an appropriation for the purposes of the bill.

- 9:59:20 AM

Consideration in detail

Bill, by leave, taken as a whole.

- 9:59:28 AM

Document

Mr Gorman (Assistant Minister to the Prime Minister) presented a supplementary explanatory memorandum to the bill.

- 9:59:30 AM

On the motion of Mr Gorman, by leave, Government amendments (1) to (19) were made together.

- 10:00:16 AM

Question—That the amendments be agreed to—put.

- 10:00:26 AM

Bill, as amended, agreed to.

Consideration in detail concluded.

- 10:00:37 AM

On the motion of Mr Gorman (Assistant Minister to the Prime Minister), by leave, the bill was read a third time.

- 10:01:30 AM

9 Criminal Code Amendment (Protecting Commonwealth Frontline Workers) Bill 2024

The order of the day having been read for the resumption of the debate on the question—That the bill be now read a second time—

Debate resumed.

Mr Fletcher, 10:01:38 AM.

- 10:04:12 AM

Debate adjourned (Mr Husic—Minister for Industry and Science), and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for a later hour this day.

- 10:04:28 AM

10 Illegal Logging Prohibition Amendment (Strengthening Measures to Prevent Illegal Timber Trade) Bill 2024

The order of the day having been read for the resumption of the debate on the question—That the bill be now read a second time—

- 10:04:57 AM

Debate adjourned (Mr Husic—Minister for Industry and Science), and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for a later hour this day.

- 10:05:25 AM

11 Treasury Laws Amendment (Financial Market Infrastructure and Other Measures) Bill 2024

The order of the day having been read for the resumption of the debate on the question—That the bill be now read a second time—

Debate resumed.

Mr Howarth, 10:05:35 AM.

- 10:15:52 AM

Debate adjourned (Mr Husic—Minister for Industry and Science), and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for a later hour this day.

- 10:15:58 AM

12 Australian Postal Corporation and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 2024

The order of the day having been read for the resumption of the debate on the question—That the bill be now read a second time—

Debate resumed.

Mr Coleman, 10:16:02 AM.

- 10:23:42 AM

Debate adjourned (Mr Husic—Minister for Industry and Science), and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for a later hour this day.

- 10:23:59 AM

13 Financial Framework (Supplementary Powers) Amendment Bill 2024

The order of the day having been read for the second reading—

- 10:27:20 AM

Document

Mr Husic (Minister for Industry and Science) presented an explanatory memorandum to the bill.

- 10:27:22 AM

Mr Husic moved—That the bill be now read a second time.

- 10:29:42 AM

Debate ensued.

Mr Howarth, 10:29:48 AM.

- 10:31:26 AM

Debate adjourned (Mr Jones—Assistant Treasurer), and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for a later hour this day.

- 10:32:08 AM

14Treasury Laws Amendment (Support for Small Business and Charities and Other Measures) Bill 2023—SENATE’S AMENDMENTS

The order of the day having been read for the consideration of the amendments made by the Senate—

- 10:32:15 AM

Mr Jones (Assistant Treasurer) moved—That the amendments be disagreed to.

- 10:35:26 AM

Debate ensued.

Mr Bates, 10:35:42 AM. Mr Jones, 10:38:08 AM.

- 10:41:14 AM

Question—put.

- 10:42:10 AM

Division 351

The House divided (the Speaker, Mr Dick, in the Chair)—

AYES, 75

Mr Albanese	Ms Doyle	Mr Laxale	Mr Repacholi
Dr Aly	Mr Dreyfus	Dr Leigh	Ms Rishworth
Dr Ananda-Rajah	Mrs Elliot	Mr Lim	Ms Roberts
Ms Belyea	Ms Fernando	Ms McBain	Ms Rowland
Mr Bowen	Dr Freelander	Ms McBride	Ms J Ryan
Mr Burke	Dr Garland	Mr Marles	Ms Scrymgour
Mr Burnell	Mr Georganas	Ms Mascarenhas	Mr Shorten
Ms Burney	Mr Giles	Ms Miller-Frost	Ms Sitou
Mr Burns	Mr Gorman	Mr B Mitchell	Mr Smith*
Mr Butler	Mr Gosling	Dr Mulino	Ms Stanley*
Ms Byrnes	Mr Hill	Mr Neumann	Ms Swanson
Dr Chalmers	Mr Husic	Mr O’Connor	Ms Templeman
Dr Charlton	Mr Jones	Ms O’Neil	Mr Thistlethwaite
Ms Chesters	Ms Kearney	Ms Payne	Ms Thwaites
Mr Clare	Mr Keogh	Mr Perrett	Ms Vamvakinou
Ms Claydon	Mr Khalil	Mrs Phillips	Mr Watts
Ms Coker	Ms C King	Ms Plibersek	Mr J Wilson
Ms Collins	Ms M. M. H. King	Mr Rae	Mr Zappia
Mr Conroy	Ms Lawrence	Dr Reid

NOES, 18

Mr Bandt*	Ms Daniel	Dr Scamps	Ms Tink
Mr Bates*	Dr Haines	Ms Sharkie	Mr van Manen
Ms Bell	Mr Joyce	Ms Spender	Ms Watson-Brown
Mr Chandler-Mather	Mrs Marino	Ms Steggall	Mr Wood
Ms Chaney	Dr M Ryan

* Tellers

And so it was resolved in the affirmative.

- 10:49:44 AM

Mr Jones presented reasons, which were circulated, and are as follows:

Reasons of the House of Representatives for disagreeing to the amendments of the Senate

The House of Representatives considers that the settings in Schedule 1 to the Bill (as transmitted to the Senate) properly implement the 2023 24 Budget measure to increase the instant asset write off threshold to $20,000 until 30 June 2024, and provide appropriate, fiscally and economically responsible, support to small businesses.
To prevent any delay in small businesses getting these promised tax benefits as part of Tax Time 2024, the House of Representatives does not agree to these amendments.

On the motion of Mr Jones, the reasons were adopted.

- 10:50:22 AM

15AUSTRALIAN PARLIAMENTARY DELEGATION—REPORT—STATEMENT BY SPEAKER

The Speaker presented the following document:

Australian Parliamentary Delegation to Nepal and India, from 4 to 12 October 2023—Report, April 2024.

- 10:54:22 AM

The Speaker made a statement in connection with the report.

- 10:54:34 AM

16National Capital and External Territories—Joint Standing Committee—REPORT—STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS—MOTION TO TAKE NOTE OF DOCUMENT—REFERENCE TO FEDERATION CHAMBER

Ms Payne (Chair) presented the following documents:

National Capital and External Territories—Joint Standing Committee—A Capital for all Australians: Report of the inquiry into fostering and promoting the significance of Australia’s National Capital (received by the Speaker on 6 May 2024, pursuant to standing order 247)—Report, incorporating a dissenting report, May 2024.

In accordance with standing order 39(e) the report was made a Parliamentary Paper.

Ms Payne, 10:55:00 AM. Mrs Marino, 11:02:31 AM.

- 11:11:39 AM

Ms Payne and Mrs Marino by leave, made statements in connection with the report.

- 11:11:42 AM

Ms Payne moved—That the House take note of the report.

- 11:11:48 AM

In accordance with standing order 39, the debate was adjourned, and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for the next sitting.

- 11:11:51 AM

Ms Payne moved—That the order of the day be referred to the Federation Chamber for debate.

- 11:12:04 AM

Question—put and passed.

- 11:12:19 AM

17Corporations and Financial Services—Parliamentary Joint Committee—REPORT—STATEMENT BY MEMBER

Mr Hawke (Chair) presented the following document:

Corporations and Financial Services—Parliamentary Joint Committee—Statutory inquiry into ASIC, the Takeovers Panel, and the corporations legislation: Competition in clearing and settlement and the ASX CHESS Replacement Project: The CHESS Replacement Project is too important to fail (received by the Speaker on 24 April 2024, pursuant to standing order 247)—Report, April 2024.

In accordance with standing order 39(e) the report was made a Parliamentary Paper.

Mr Hawke, 11:12:47 AM.

- 11:20:07 AM

Mr Hawke, by leave, made a statement in connection with the report.

- 11:20:31 AM

18Therapeutic Goods and Other Legislation Amendment (Vaping Reforms) Bill 2024

The order of the day having been read for the resumption of the debate on the question—That the bill be now read a second time—And on the amendment moved thereto by Mr Conaghan, viz.—That all words after “That” be omitted with a view to substituting the following words:

“whilst not declining to give the bill a second reading, the House:

(1)criticises the Government for failing to control the illicit vaping market and failing to protect children against the proliferation of vaping products that have exploded in availability through a black market driven by organised crime;

(2)expresses its alarm that the current prescription-only model is failing, with only approximately 10 per cent of vapers purchasing their product legally through prescriptions;

(3)acknowledges the existence and strength of the $1 billion black market vape trade in Australia, which is fuelled by the importation of more than 100 million illicit disposable devices each year;

(4)recognises that resourcing of enforcement measures at the borders and the point of sale has been grossly insufficient and that policy measures such as prohibition have historically not worked;

(5)calls on the Government to consider all policies to prevent children from accessing and becoming addicted to vaping products; and

(6)further criticises the Government for failing to establish or fund its promised illicit tobacco and vaping commissioner”—

Debate resumed.

Mr Chester, 11:20:43 AM. Ms Roberts, 11:33:21 AM. Dr Scamps, 11:43:31 AM.

- 11:56:21 AM

Debate adjourned (Dr Aly—Minister for Youth), and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for a later hour this day.

- 11:56:32 AM

19Regional ministerial budget statement—MINISTERIAL STATEMENT

Ms McBain (Minister for Regional Development, Local Government and Territories), by leave, made a ministerial statement relating to the regional budget statement.

- 12:16:32 PM

Mr Littleproud (Leader of The Nationals) addressed the House in reply.

- 12:32:02 PM

20Therapeutic Goods and Other Legislation Amendment (Vaping Reforms) Bill 2024

“whilst not declining to give the bill a second reading, the House:

(2)expresses its alarm that the current prescription-only model is failing, with only approximately 10 per cent of vapers purchasing their product legally through prescriptions;

(3)acknowledges the existence and strength of the $1 billion black market vape trade in Australia, which is fuelled by the importation of more than 100 million illicit disposable devices each year;

(4)recognises that resourcing of enforcement measures at the borders and the point of sale has been grossly insufficient and that policy measures such as prohibition have historically not worked;

(5)calls on the Government to consider all policies to prevent children from accessing and becoming addicted to vaping products; and

(6)further criticises the Government for failing to establish or fund its promised illicit tobacco and vaping commissioner”—

Debate resumed.

Dr Ananda-Rajah, 12:32:15 PM. Ms Chaney, 12:44:27 PM. Mr Birrell, 12:51:34 PM. Ms Spender, 1:01:06 PM. Mr Butler, 1:05:50 PM.

- 1:16:14 PM

Question—That the amendment be agreed to—put.

- 1:17:19 PM

Division 352

The House divided (the Speaker, Mr Dick, in the Chair)—

AYES, 55

Mrs Andrews	Mr Fletcher	Mrs McIntosh	Mr Tehan
Mrs Archer	Dr Gillespie	Ms McKenzie	Mr Thompson
Ms Bell	Mr Goodenough	Mrs Marino	Mr van Manen
Mr Birrell	Mr Hamilton	Mr Ted O’Brien	Mr Vasta
Mr Boyce	Mr Hawke	Mr L O’Brien	Mr Violi
Mr Broadbent	Mr Hogan	Mr Pasin	Mr Wallace
Mr Buchholz	Mr Howarth	Mr Pearce	Ms Ware
Mr Caldwell	Mr Joyce	Mr Pike	Dr Webster
Mr Chester	Mr Kennedy	Mr Pitt	Mr Willcox
Mr Coleman	Ms Landry	Ms Price	Mr R Wilson
Mr Conaghan	Mr Leeser	Mr Ramsey*	Mr Wolahan
Mr Coulton*	Ms Ley	Mr Stevens	Mr Wood
Mr Dutton	Mr Littleproud	Mr Sukkar	Mr Young
Mr Entsch	Mr McCormack	Mr Taylor

NOES, 84

Mr Albanese	Mrs Elliot	Dr Leigh	Ms Roberts
Dr Aly	Ms Fernando	Mr Lim	Ms Rowland
Dr Ananda-Rajah	Dr Freelander	Ms McBain	Ms J Ryan
Ms Belyea	Dr Garland	Ms McBride	Dr M Ryan
Mr Bowen	Mr Gee	Mr Marles	Dr Scamps
Mr Burke	Mr Georganas	Ms Mascarenhas	Ms Scrymgour
Mr Burnell	Mr Giles	Ms Miller-Frost	Mr Shorten
Ms Burney	Mr Gorman	Mr B Mitchell	Ms Sitou
Mr Burns	Mr Gosling	Mr R Mitchell	Mr Smith*
Mr Butler	Dr Haines	Dr Mulino	Ms Stanley*
Ms Byrnes	Mr Hill	Mr Neumann	Ms Steggall
Dr Charlton	Mr Husic	Mr O’Connor	Ms Swanson
Ms Chesters	Mr Jones	Ms O’Neil	Ms Templeman
Mr Clare	Ms Kearney	Ms Payne	Mr Thistlethwaite
Ms Claydon	Mr Keogh	Mr Perrett	Ms Thwaites
Ms Coker	Mr Khalil	Mrs Phillips	Ms Tink
Ms Collins	Ms C King	Ms Plibersek	Ms Vamvakinou
Mr Conroy	Ms M. M. H. King	Mr Rae	Mr Watts
Ms Daniel	Ms Lawrence	Dr Reid	Ms Wells
Ms Doyle	Mr Laxale	Mr Repacholi	Mr J Wilson
Mr Dreyfus	Ms Le	Ms Rishworth	Mr Zappia

* Tellers

And so it was negatived.

- 1:24:51 PM

Amendment negatived.

- 1:24:57 PM

Question—That the bill be now read a second time—put and passed—bill read a second time.

- 1:25:19 PM

Leave granted for third reading to be moved immediately.

On the motion of Mr Butler (Minister for Health and Aged Care), the bill was read a third time.

- 1:26:04 PM

21 Treasury Laws Amendment (Better Targeted Superannuation Concessions and Other Measures) Bill 2023

The order of the day having been read for the resumption of the debate on the question—That the bill be now read a second time—

Debate resumed.

- 1:26:11 PM

Cognate debate with Superannuation (Better Targeted Superannuation Concessions) Imposition Bill 2023.

- 1:27:07 PM

Mr Howarth addressing the House—

- 1:30:04 PM

It being 1.30 pm, the debate was interrupted in accordance with standing order 43, Mr Howarth was granted leave to continue his speech when the debate is resumed, and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for a later hour this day.

- 1:30:12 PM

22MEMBERS’ STATEMENTS

Members’ statements were made.

Mr Tehan, 1:30:15 PM. Ms Stanley, 1:31:49 PM. Mr Thompson, 1:33:18 PM. Ms Scrymgour, 1:34:43 PM. Mr Chandler-Mather, 1:36:23 PM. Mr Smith, 1:37:55 PM. Ms Le, 1:39:24 PM. Ms Roberts, 1:40:56 PM. Mr van Manen, 1:42:12 PM. Mr Rae, 1:44:29 PM. Mr Vasta, 1:45:28 PM. Mr Laxale, 1:47:01 PM. Mr Violi, 1:48:40 PM. Ms Fernando, 1:50:06 PM. Mr Wallace, 1:51:24 PM. Ms Chesters, 1:53:02 PM.